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Re: Marriage: John H Meadth to Sarah Owens
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 25 February 18 16:58 GMT (UK) »
Martha has a second name Wilhelmina and there is a death in Mar 1884 Salford for a

Martha Wilhelmina Owens age 6 so that sadly could be why she isn't around in 1891  :(

Also a Samuel Owens death age 10 Sep 1884 Salford but would really need the death certificate to confirm he was "your" Samuel.

I am aware that Martha's middle initial is W but not sure what it stands for. If they both sadly died (and in the same year) this would explain why they aren't in 1891 census either.
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Re: Marriage: John H Meadth to Sarah Owens
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 25 February 18 19:12 GMT (UK) »
I was also thinking that if Sarah is a widower in 1891 census and with John in the 1901. Where was John in 1891 - maybe this might unearth an answer or two?
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Re: Marriage: John H Meadth to Sarah Owens
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 25 February 18 22:22 GMT (UK) »
Not sure that is your Joseph as found a 16 year old in 1891 that might be the 7 year old boarder.
Will investigate that.  I wonder if yours was in Ireland with grandparents perhaps but long shot if the rest of his family were in England.

Meadth is a strange name to look for.  What else could it be under do you think - Mead or Meath?
John could still have been in Ireland in 1891.

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Re: Marriage: John H Meadth to Sarah Owens
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 25 February 18 22:34 GMT (UK) »
Is there a death for either John or Sarah under Meadth?

How would the name sound spoken with an Irish accent to see if it's written differently?

If Hugh John is described as deceased on Robert's marriage then he should have died 1901-1921.
Incidentally in 1901 John H Meadth is a retired shipping clerk.

Who were the witnesses at the 1921 marriage?
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Re: Marriage: John H Meadth to Sarah Owens
« Reply #31 on: Monday 26 February 18 21:10 GMT (UK) »
Is there a death for either John or Sarah under Meadth?

How would the name sound spoken with an Irish accent to see if it's written differently?

If Hugh John is described as deceased on Robert's marriage then he should have died 1901-1921.
Incidentally in 1901 John H Meadth is a retired shipping clerk.

Who were the witnesses at the 1921 marriage?

I haven't found any deaths for either Sarah or John. I mentioned in a previous thread that the locals attended Robert's funeral to see what surname was put on the gravestone. My apologies again but this was incorrect. I was told yesterday that  'the locals' attended Sarah's funeral for that reason but as to whether he was buried in England or Ireland is unknown. Her daughter Sarah (b.1880) died a spinster in 1958 and is buried in Southport.

As to its pronunciation I can only imagine it is a silent d and is meath.

I cannot recall who the witnesses were but I didn't recognise there names as being a relative. i will dig this out again in due course.
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Re: Marriage: John H Meadth to Sarah Owens
« Reply #32 on: Monday 26 February 18 21:13 GMT (UK) »
Not sure that is your Joseph as found a 16 year old in 1891 that might be the 7 year old boarder.
Will investigate that.  I wonder if yours was in Ireland with grandparents perhaps but long shot if the rest of his family were in England.

Meadth is a strange name to look for.  What else could it be under do you think - Mead or Meath?
John could still have been in Ireland in 1891.

I was thinking that maybe John is still in Ireland and that would make him untraceable. I have his parents listed as James and Kath from an Irish BMD but that is all.
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Re: Marriage: John H Meadth to Sarah Owens
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 18 April 18 11:52 BST (UK) »
is anyone able to shed any more light on the J Meadth that drowned in WW1? i Actually have his service medals from the war and also one from service in india from the 1890's.  I can't seem to find how they fit into my family. My Great Grandfather Thomas J Meadth B1904 is in the 1911 census born in manchester.  but his father is also Thomas J meadth born in Drogheda in ireland and its listed he is married to a Louisa meadth (ferguson)

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Re: Marriage: John H Meadth to Sarah Owens
« Reply #34 on: Saturday 28 July 18 10:56 BST (UK) »
is anyone able to shed any more light on the J Meadth that drowned in WW1? i Actually have his service medals from the war and also one from service in india from the 1890's.  I can't seem to find how they fit into my family. My Great Grandfather Thomas J Meadth B1904 is in the 1911 census born in manchester.  but his father is also Thomas J meadth born in Drogheda in ireland and its listed he is married to a Louisa meadth (ferguson)

I believe that John had a brother called Thomas. I also believe that Thomas owned a pub in Manchester but I would have to go through my research notes again to recap my memory.

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Re: Marriage: John H Meadth to Sarah Owens
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 20 February 22 12:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi, did you ever find out who Robert's father was? I have tried to figure it out for years, just found this post today. Thanks :-)