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Boston Suffolk Massachusetts Passengers
« on: Sunday 25 February 18 03:23 GMT (UK) »
Would someone be able to tell me how I'd find the reason for travel from England to USA if it isn't written on the passenger list?

My Harker family sailed on the steamship Paronia on 16th April 1884 destination Boston and listed as Immigration but they were back in Bramley Yorkshire on the 1891 Census minus Francis the husband.

Tried to find passport applications but drew a blank and am unsure where else to search for any information.

I know Francis didn't have any relatives in USA until 1910 and can't connect Marjory nee Wilson or Alex (adopted by the Harkers - father Charles Wilson, mother Isabella McDivett-McDevitt etc) to any like surnames there.

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Re: Boston Suffolk Massachusetts Passengers
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 25 February 18 04:06 GMT (UK) »
Is this him?  It indicates arrival on 16 April 1887 on the SS Pavonia.  Occupation - spinner. 
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9K4-X2XW?i=121&cc=2304666

And there's also this:  27 September 1877 on the SS Minnesota.  Occupation - merchant.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9K4-XF5G?i=120&cc=2304666
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: Boston Suffolk Massachusetts Passengers
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 25 February 18 04:12 GMT (UK) »
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: Boston Suffolk Massachusetts Passengers
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 25 February 18 04:54 GMT (UK) »
Yes the family search link is the correct one. Do you know why it says 1887 yet event date is 1884? I don't understand why the 2 dates?
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Re: Boston Suffolk Massachusetts Passengers
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 25 February 18 05:04 GMT (UK) »
Actually the entry for Francis Harker on the SS Minnasota is my Francis also but I didn't know he had been there before. He was a foreman at a Worsted Mill in Yorkshire during this date.
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Re: Boston Suffolk Massachusetts Passengers
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 25 February 18 05:20 GMT (UK) »
What event date?  I haven't seen anything that puts the event in 1884.  Here's the first page of that passenger list, clearly 16 April 1887.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939K-YHBT?i=250&cc=1860873


As for the purpose of the trip, it appears to have been immigration since they were planning a "prolonged sojourn."  Possibly they went because they thought they might do better in North America and then, when they found out that life really wasn't that great in Massachusetts, they went back home.  At that time, Massachusetts was the main textile producing state.  Maybe Francis had some special expertise and had taken a short term contract to set up a mill and get it running.

Did Francis die in the United States?  I don't see a death in Massachusetts.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: Boston Suffolk Massachusetts Passengers
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 25 February 18 05:34 GMT (UK) »
No Francis died in 1909 in Wharfdale Yorkshire.
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Re: Boston Suffolk Massachusetts Passengers
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 25 February 18 05:35 GMT (UK) »
The mills in Boston plus other areas needed skilled workers and many from the mill areas in England were recruited to go and work there.
Your ancestor was a mill foreman could it be he went there to
help set up production at a new mill, I expect many of his fellow passengers were mill workers.
Unfortunately the 1890 census was destroyed I had hoped to find them in Boston.

Francis Harker was back in England ref: 1901 census age 52, wife Marjory 48, Alexander 19

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Re: Boston Suffolk Massachusetts Passengers
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 25 February 18 05:50 GMT (UK) »
The mills weren't located in Boston.  They were in towns along rivers to provide water power.  Lowell, Lawrence, Fall River and Taunton were some of the most important mill towns.

http://historyofmassachusetts.org/massachusetts-textile-mills/
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis