George & Fallin Ross

[mantharobertson]

Help!

I am searching for the Birth of George Ross b abt 1860. I have the following info but am struggling to locate him...

Father: James Ross (Violinist/Musician)
Mother: Agnes Ross nee Skimming/Cumming (I believe it to be Cumming but it says Skimming on a couple documents)
Born: abt 1860 in Saltcoats, Ayrshire (as per 1881, 1891, 1901 & 1911 census) however 1881 census says POB Glasgow, Lanarkshire.

I am also trying to find his brother 'Fallin Ross' age 19 on the 1881 census, he's listed as a 'showman' residing at 60 Rose St, Govan with his parents and George. I can find no trace at all of him... I assume the name Fallin is maybe a misprint... although it's clear on the written return.

This is driving me round the bend and keeping me awake!

Thanks in anticipation.

[Wendy2305]

Hi not found anything on George or his brother but have found a marriage between James Ross and Agnes Cumming in 1864 in Calton Glasgow and a possible death for Agnes in 1891 Calton Glasgow

Could George and his brother be the sons of Agnes but not James

[mantharobertson]

Hiya,

Yes I have their marriage and Agnes' death... there is only one thing that threw be out which is on Agnes' death entry it seems to say George is her 'stepson' although she is listed on all his documents.

[Wendy2305]

Couldn't find a birth for a George to a Agnes and the only one I could find to a James was born in Peterhead

Stepson would indicate he was not Agnes son and possibly not James maybe that of a sibling

On the death and wedding certificate does it menition previous marriage for either James or Agnes as she would have been 36 when they married

[mantharobertson]

Yes! James Ross is a widower on their marriage entry! I hadn't actually looked up the entry! Just marriage and death, it seems Agnes was also a widow. 

So how do I find them? Do I assume they were Agnes' or James? James' surely of George lists himself as stepson.

[Wendy2305]

I would research Agnes and James parents and siblings you may find George living with one of them in census hopefully giving his birth name you could also try and find James and Agnes in the census as well before ther marriage

If you get stuck put the names of their parents and where and when James and Agnes were born someone will find them

[MonicaL]

Have you looked at this possible 1871 census entry for James and Agnes:

James Ross 44 fiddler b. Glasgow
Agnes Cummings Ross 43 b. Glasgow
George Knox 14 Boarder message boy b. Saltcoats Ayrshire
William Ross 8 son b. Glasgow (could this be Fallin?)
Helen Park 50 boarder b. Glasgow

Address: 115 High St Glasgow/Central

Monica

[MonicaL]

Struggling to find things still with this new info.

Wondering if this could be an entry for George Knox in 1861:

Amelia Wright 62 milliner b. Greenock
Margaret Wright 26 daughter milliner b. Liverpool (can't see her marital status from the transcript)
George Knox 2 son to Margaret, b. Saltcoats

Address: 52 Cowgate 1 Builies Ct St Giles Edinburgh

Monica

[mantharobertson]

Have you looked at this possible 1871 census entry for James and Agnes:

James Ross 44 fiddler b. Glasgow
Agnes Cummings Ross 43 b. Glasgow
George Knox 14 Boarder message boy b. Saltcoats Ayrshire
William Ross 8 son b. Glasgow (could this be Fallin?)
Helen Park 50 boarder b. Glasgow

Address: 115 High St Glasgow/Central

Monica

Yes! i just found this myself... I can still not find his birth under the name Knox... this is the right family as everything I have lists James Ross as a violinist/musician... so fiddler would be in keeping. I am wondering if Fallin is a misprint of William as it seems they match in age/DOB.