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Re: Joseph Brown, cannot locate him
« Reply #9 on: Monday 26 February 18 18:59 GMT (UK) »
Here's the family in 1901 census (it helps if you post links to information already found) and one important detail you omitted was that father was in R.IC.-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Shankhill/Tennent_Street/950136

My Great Grandfather was William Robert Brown born 1880
William Brown (mother Hand) born 31 Dec. 1879
a brother John Joseph Browne born 7 Nov.1883 at Castlerock-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1883/02716/1999704.pdf

Added- mother's maiden name does show in GRONI's database which is where I first searched
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Re: Joseph Brown, cannot locate him
« Reply #10 on: Monday 26 February 18 19:10 GMT (UK) »
Here's the family in 1901 census (it helps if you post links to information already found) and one important detail you omitted was that father was in R.IC.-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Shankhill/Tennent_Street/950136

My Great Grandfather was William Robert Brown born 1880
William Brown (mother Hand) born 31 Dec. 1879
a brother John Joseph Browne born 7 Nov.1883 at Castlerock-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1883/02716/1999704.pdf

Added- mother's maiden name does show in GRONI's database which is where I first searched

It was the omission of where the children were born that caught my eye when I had to go looking for them on Census!

Plus their Religion...

No clue given as to where Joseph could have been born.

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Re: Joseph Brown, cannot locate him
« Reply #11 on: Monday 26 February 18 21:10 GMT (UK) »
Here's the family in 1901 census (it helps if you post links to information already found) and one important detail you omitted was that father was in R.IC.-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Shankhill/Tennent_Street/950136

My Great Grandfather was William Robert Brown born 1880
William Brown (mother Hand) born 31 Dec. 1879
a brother John Joseph Browne born 7 Nov.1883 at Castlerock-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1883/02716/1999704.pdf

Added- mother's maiden name does show in GRONI's database which is where I first searched


I am most grateful to you for this, and I stand chastised, my apologies for the RIC omission, I thought of it too late and also didn't think to link the census etc, every day is a learning curve.
So, its 'John' Joseph Browne, with an E?
 Born 1883, where is he on the 1901 census at such a young age, Army do you think?

Thank you so much again for all of your help

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Re: Joseph Brown, cannot locate him
« Reply #12 on: Monday 26 February 18 21:33 GMT (UK) »
He was about 18 in 1901 so could have been anywhere really. I did have a look for possible death before 1901 without finding a suitable match but you might wasn't to do so more thoroughly in case I missed something and perhaps carry the search forward-
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Re: Joseph Brown, cannot locate him
« Reply #13 on: Monday 26 February 18 21:45 GMT (UK) »
He was about 18 in 1901 so could have been anywhere really. I did have a look for possible death before 1901 without finding a suitable match but you might wasn't to do so more thoroughly in case I missed something and perhaps carry the search forward-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

That's why one needs the clues from Census etc to search for him on Civil Reg or in Census!!

Religion, Birthplace, Age etc.....
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Re: Joseph Brown, cannot locate him
« Reply #14 on: Monday 26 February 18 22:35 GMT (UK) »
I used Brown* as surname and John as first name also. I did not select Londonderry as birthplace as that doesn't always pick up ones listed as Derry.
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Re: Joseph Brown, cannot locate him
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 27 February 18 06:54 GMT (UK) »
Thank you aghadowey for your input.
And thank you hallmark, I get the point, I should have included the census as a link, I had written it down that I'd used the census, I didn't completely ommit it!! Sometimes things come to you later on like the RIC thing, I feel like a naughty school boy being told off!
But thank you anyway for all your efforts, they are appreciated.

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Re: Joseph Brown, cannot locate him
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 27 February 18 07:43 GMT (UK) »
Thank you aghadowey for your input.
And thank you hallmark, I get the point, I should have included the census as a link, I had written it down that I'd used the census, I didn't completely ommit it!! Sometimes things come to you later on like the RIC thing, I feel like a naughty school boy being told off!
But thank you anyway for all your efforts, they are appreciated.

We are only trying to help.

If you are looking for someone else on Census, then you need to use all the clues you have.

Others reading this thread will see how important these clues are and it might help them find kin!


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Re: Joseph Brown, cannot locate him
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 27 February 18 07:55 GMT (UK) »
I know, and you've been a great help, don't get me wrong.
As I said, a learning curve for me when I look for other Kin, just felt like I'd been told off that's all, nothing personnel.
You've found the chap I was looking for, and I'm most greatful.
Was the fathers occupation on the birth record that was looked up, ie RIC, and that's why that was important?
Seriously, your time and help are greatly appreciated.