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Berry family from Penistone
« on: Tuesday 27 February 18 01:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi and I am searching my 3rd great grandparents Charles Berry and his wife Sarah Moorhouse and their 6 children. Charles was a farmer and he had two farms, Kirkwood Farm and Castle Farm (but not sure if he actually owned the land) and in a 1868 Poll book Shepherd's Castle or Farm is mentioned as well as in the 1871 census. Charles was born about 1802 in Penistone but I have not being able to find any info on who were his parents. His wife Sarah was born about the same time as Charles but in Thurlstone and I did come across a baptism record for Sarah which reads " Sarah, daughter of William and Amelia Moorhouse - at Millhouse, township of Thurlstone, born 27 Nov 1803 and baptised 2/3/1804." Charles seems to have lived his whole life in Penistone and from what I can make out his children were more than likely born at one of his farms. Charles and Sarah were married at St John the Baptist, Penistone on 4/3/1832 and their first 2 children, Edward and David were both baptised on the 13/1/1833 (found the records on Find My Past) but they only have a birth date for Edward which was 10/7/1832; so I presume that Edward and David must be twins. Two of their other children, Joseph and Mary were twins, born 16/2/1834 and baptised 25/9/1834 and their other two children, Benjamin (b 1835) and Amelia (b 1839) appears that all their 6 children were baptised at St John the Baptist in Penistone - found the birth/and or info on FindMyPast. Does anyone know which site/s I can go onto for any info on baptisms at St John the Baptist in Penistone which will give me besides baptism dates their birth dates, especially to see if Edward and David were twins. Also any info regarding who may be Charles Berry's parents and/or birth/baptism records?
  Thanking in advance for any help on the Berry family from Penistone would be very appreciated.
    Cheers, Judy
Berry, Kennedy, Prime, deMalmanche, Pew, Murphy, Hastie, Wilson, Simpson, McDiarmid, Harkness, Johnston, Yorston

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Re: Berry family from Penistone
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 27 February 18 11:36 GMT (UK) »
From the baptism register, first date is birth second date is baptism all at Penistone Parish Church

Edward 10 July 1832 13 January 1833 abode Shepherd's Castle

Joseph 16 February 1834 25 September 1834 abode Shepherd's Castle

Mary 16 February 1834 25 September 1834 abode Shepherd's Castle

Benjamin 22 December 1835 24 March 1836 abode Castle ( probably shortened version of Shepherd's Castle


Amelia 20 August 1839 10 October 1839 abode Castle ( see entry for Benjamin)

I used to live in Penistone do have had all my maps out looking for where your family lived. If you google Kirkwood Farm you will see a photo of it as it is/ was on the market.

There isn't a David someone misread Edward as David. I checked the actual entry and there is only Edward.

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Re: Berry family from Penistone
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 27 February 18 21:56 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for that Gibel and so don't need to find out where this David 'disappeared' to now or wondering if Edward was a twin also.
I saw the farm on google search and wow it looks amazing. Wonder if there are any old photos of the farm long before renovations were done. I must do some google searching one day.
 Thank you again and cheers
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Re: Berry family from Penistone
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 February 18 12:17 GMT (UK) »
Sarah Moorhouse's christening was at Netherfield Independent Chapel (other Congregational). The building is still there, well it was in 2002) on Huddersfield Road going out of Penistone on your left.

I'll have a look at my Penistone books to see if I can find any old photos.

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Re: Berry family from Penistone
« Reply #4 on: Friday 09 March 18 10:40 GMT (UK) »
Pay to view website

Possibility ???  abode of residence in the nonconformist register could be well North in moorland hill farming countryside above Sheffield city nearer outer South Penistone border limits with Sheffield outer North boundary .


RG4  3690  Register of Births and Baptisms At Queen Street Independent Chapel In the Parish of Sheffield, Yorkshire From 1783 To 1837 

Charles  Berry  1802  Birth  Sheffield, Yorkshire

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Re: Berry family from Penistone
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 10 March 18 10:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi and yes i have that record for Queen St Independent Chapel at Sheffield for 1802 for Charles printed out - when i was a paid member of Find My Past i came across it but i wondered if that was "my" Charles as his parents names were Robert and Rebecca and those two christian names never seemed to appear in future generations (even shortened like say Becky) and when i began doing the family trees i noticed when reading the help and guide lines for starters that first names seemed to carry on which helps you to work out if they are family. But honestly i do not know. In all of the census i have for Charles, 1841-1881 they have him from Penistone except for 1881 (but not sure if it is him) Charles is a retired farmer, widower, age 79, living at Roughbirchwood, Oxspring, Wortley and born at Hall Green, Yorkshire. Charles died in 1882 at Wortley so i saved that census due to it being in Wortley.
 Thanking you for replying to me, much appreciated.
    Cheers, Judy
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Re: Berry family from Penistone
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 March 18 11:21 GMT (UK) »
Maybe the Sheffield Charles nonconformist birth 1802 father Robert left a Will/probate naming his son Charles with info on him in later life, and have you look for this Sheffield born Charles in the censuses years or an infant in Sheffield N C burial (1802 to say 1817) or later life adult burial (If he was another Charles for proof to eliminate him or keep him as yours)

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Re: Berry family from Penistone
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 10 March 18 15:09 GMT (UK) »
Wortley registration district covered a large area including Oxspring and Penistone. I seem to remember that the burial for Charles at Penistone said he was from Oxspring or was it the name of the farm?

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Re: Berry family from Penistone
« Reply #8 on: Monday 12 March 18 04:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gibel and it says from Oxspring I still am not sure of course if that is "my" Charles Berry due to it saying from Oxspring and not Penistone but then i thought maybe he lived there his last few years. Cannot find any census for him after 1871 living at his farm(s), I also checked a couple of his children's census from 1881 and he is not on any pages (i went back a few and forward a few) i could see. Thanks and Cheers
Berry, Kennedy, Prime, deMalmanche, Pew, Murphy, Hastie, Wilson, Simpson, McDiarmid, Harkness, Johnston, Yorston