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Italy - Carlisimo / Carlesimo Family
« on: Tuesday 27 February 18 15:22 GMT (UK) »
Looking for as much information on Alfrido Carlisimo/Carlesimo Frosinone DOB:@1920 parents mother Stella Maria Paolini DOB :@1900 Father Antonio Carlesimo DOB:@1900...Alfrido entered Rio de Janeiro Brazil @1949 and then he moved to São Paulo Brazil in @1950.  He was meant to have travelled to America the UK and possibly South Africa & Australia...no substantial information.  Apart from Brazil.  Any information greatly appreciated.  It is interesting he left Italy in 1949 when many escaping the allies on known escape routes to South America.. I hope someone can put some meat on the bones ....Keith
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Re: Italy - Carlisimo / Carlesimo Family
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 27 February 18 17:39 GMT (UK) »
Looking at the reverse side of his Sao Paulo immigration card, it looks like he stayed in Brazil until 1954. I don't read Portuguese but perhaps someone else can help with this.

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Re: Italy - Carlisimo / Carlesimo Family
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 27 February 18 18:00 GMT (UK) »
Looking at the reverse side of his Sao Paulo immigration card, it looks like he stayed in Brazil until 1954. I don't read Portuguese but perhaps someone else can help with this.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89DF-JQV9?i=597&cc=2140223
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Thank you for the update ...I missed the reverse of the card ...I shall have it translated..

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Re: Italy - Carlisimo / Carlesimo Family
« Reply #3 on: Monday 12 March 18 21:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi

The reverse side of the Brazil Immigration Card says:

He arrived at the port of Santos on the 17.12.1949. Passport issued at Frosinone on the 26.09.1949.
31.07.1951 his place of work was at Avenida Marginal at Industrias Reunidas Francisco Matarazzo, Vila Jaguara.
31.07.1951 his residence was at Avenida Presidente Altino 52, Vila Jaguara.
19.02.1954 he obtained a visa for a travel to Italy, he obtained a new italian passport on 16.02.1954

If you search for Industrias Reunidas Francisco Matarazzo you can find more information about this enterprise in Sao Paulo but only in Brasilian-Portugese language.

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Re: Italy - Carlisimo / Carlesimo Family
« Reply #4 on: Monday 12 March 18 22:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi

The reverse side of the Brazil Immigration Card says:

He arrived at the port of Santos on the 17.12.1949. Passport issued at Frosinone on the 26.09.1949.
31.07.1951 his place of work was at Avenida Marginal at Industrias Reunidas Francisco Matarazzo, Vila Jaguara.
31.07.1951 his residence was at Avenida Presidente Altino 52, Vila Jaguara.
19.02.1954 he obtained a visa for a travel to Italy, he obtained a new italian passport on 16.02.1954

If you search for Industrias Reunidas Francisco Matarazzo you can find more information about this enterprise in Sao Paulo but only in Brasilian-Portugese language.

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Svenja,

Thank you for the update.

Much appreciated...

Regards
Keith
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Re: Italy - Carlisimo / Carlesimo Family
« Reply #5 on: Monday 12 March 18 22:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi

The Alfredo Carlesimo in the United States ist not the same man (information from passenger list):

Name of ship: Vulcania
Travel route: Naples, Italy to New York (March 1948)
place oft birth: Casalvieri, Frosinone
last permanent residence: Casalvieri, Frosinone
Wife Caterina Morelli, Casalvieri, Frosinone
Father: Carlesino Onorio, 3326 Zeland Avenue, Detroit, Michigan

Some other sources say that this Alfredo Carlesimo was born on 25. August 1914.

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Re: Italy - Carlisimo / Carlesimo Family
« Reply #6 on: Monday 12 March 18 22:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi

The Alfredo Carlesimo in the United States ist not the same man (information from passenger list):

Name of ship: Vulcania
Travel route: Naples, Italy to New York (March 1948)
place oft birth: Casalvieri, Frosinone
last permanent residence: Casalvieri, Frosinone
Wife Caterina Morelli, Casalvieri, Frosinone
Father: Carlesino Onorio, 3326 Zeland Avenue, Detroit, Michigan

Some other sources say that this Alfredo Carlesimo was born on 25. August 1914.

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Svenja

Svenja,

Thank you for clearing this up for me much appreciated.

I am now looking to see if the man I am looking for may have come to England.

Regards
Keith
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