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Last few from Ringmer
« on: Wednesday 28 February 18 08:20 GMT (UK) »
This is the last of the Ringmer records I needed to cover. I had a bit of success spotting a few Harts which I was able to decipher quite easily; some pages are just too faint to even attempt recognition and then there are these three, possible wishful thinking, but if anyone can give an opinion that would be great.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-D148-FX?i=362&cat=85294 1610 John? Rhs, 3rd one down. (And if anyone wants to look at the very long entry starting on the previous page, about a marriage I think (not Harts), I'm somewhat curious to know what it is and why so long!)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-D14D-L3?i=365&cat=85294 92 – John Hart & Mary (1616)?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-D14X-7S?i=370&cat=85294 March 1622 burial of Mr John Hart?

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Re: Last few from Ringmer
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 February 18 08:24 GMT (UK) »
3rd snip

March 22 was buried ? John Hart?
 the same day was buried a child of Joshua?  . . . laws.   

 Can't read the rest

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Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Last few from Ringmer
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 February 18 08:28 GMT (UK) »
2nd snip



? November 26 was married John Hart ? senior and Mary. . Cull(?batch) of
this parish.  .

Maybe.    Not too sure about Hart, but you are saying so.   I am wondering about Reid. But presumably you found it when looking for Hart!

Hope someone else will come and either agree or read better! ;D

Wiggy.  ;)
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

 Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.

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Re: Last few from Ringmer
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 February 18 08:53 GMT (UK) »
Thanks very much, Wiggy.  :)

I'm not at all sure about Hart - was just looking for anything that could possibly be one! I would just like to know whether to rule them in or out. I'll see if I can manipulate the images some more to make them clearer.

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Re: Last few from Ringmer
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 28 February 18 09:00 GMT (UK) »
The 2nd snip amendment .

. . . .  Mary Cull both of
this parish

Wiggy.
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Last few from Ringmer
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 28 February 18 09:23 GMT (UK) »
A darker version of the first one. Does that help?

I do know that the probate of one of the John Harts' will was administered/registered on 15 May 1622, which made me think that he may have been buried around then. I don't think that the child is necessarily related to him, as I think I noticed other records using the same wording ("on the same day") rather than rewrite the date.

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Re: Last few from Ringmer
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 28 February 18 09:33 GMT (UK) »
Sorry - doesn't help much -  :-\ :-\ :-\

I think I see

  ?  ?6 (or 10) day of June  ? ? baptized ( possibly the name) John  ?    I don't think the surname - if that is what it is - is Hart . . but I really don't know.

Do hope some others drop by soon!

Wiggy    :)
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

 Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.

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Re: Last few from Ringmer
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 28 February 18 09:35 GMT (UK) »
Ah, no, ignore that 2nd one, sorry. I just thought to check the surname in the FS index, and it came up with that actual marriage, to John Foord, 26 Nov 1616. They seem to have just started adding names and transcript to their indexes very recently:
"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK47-9PL : 10 February 2018), John Foord and Mary Call, 26 Nov 1616; citing Ringmer,Sussex,England, reference , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,067,274.

- because I noticed that some other Ringmer records (c.1630s) I was looking for about a week ago which were definitely not there, turned up yesterday. I don't know how complete their coverage is though - they may be uploading in batches. They haven't got a John Hart burial in 1722, but I'll poke around some more. You were mostly correct though! (And they probably have clearer images to work from.)

No worries, Wiggy, and thanks for your efforts. It's possible that none of them turn out to be Harts...

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Re: Last few from Ringmer
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 28 February 18 09:48 GMT (UK) »
Hmmm, I wonder if the 1610 one could be this entry:
Name    John Rede
Event Type    Christening
Event Date    10 Jun 1610
Event Place    Ringmer, Sussex, England
Gender    Male
Father's Name    John Rede
Mother's Name    Marye

It's just too difficult to make out at all, but Rede seems just as likely.

Searching for all of the John burials in Ringmer in 1622 shows this one:
Name    John *Art
Event Type    Burial
Event Date    22 Mar 1621
Event Place    Ringmer, Sussex, England
Gender    Male
 - which I think is likely to be this one. With the baptisms I was checking yesterday, several fell before March 24th and they dated them with the previous year, Gregorian style (which I didn't think that they usually did). I suspect that this matches my John Hart(e), who was in Ringmer and died around then.

So I think I'm happy to take that one, for which I'll make appropriate notes.
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