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Offline Hampshire Lass

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Looking for a birth certificate
« on: Wednesday 28 February 18 13:43 GMT (UK) »
Thomas Reid (Reed on his marriage record) says on the 1881 and 1891 censuses he was born in 1847/48 St Martin's in the fields. Before his marriage in 1870 he doesn't seem to exist.

I thought I would try to find his birth record and send for the birth certificate but am confused about the registration districts of London. Cannot find a birth record specifically in St Martin's in the Fields.

I think I should order the marriage certificate first but would still like the birth certificate in due course....but which one! Since he was consistent on the 2 censuses, which district covers St Martin's in the Fields? Or is that a district in its own right?
Best wishes HL


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Re: Looking for a birth certificate
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 February 18 13:49 GMT (UK) »
It's here.  (Volume 1 at that era)

https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/st%20martin%20in%20the%20fields.html

Not all early births made it to the register though.
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Re: Looking for a birth certificate
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 February 18 13:55 GMT (UK) »
Thanks PaulineJ. I did find that page but am eternally confused!!! Does it mean that St Martin's in the Fields would come up as the actual district of birth on the birth records?

If so, either he wasn't registered, or he was born in another district.

As he is hard to find on the 1851 and 1861 and 1871 censuses I wonder if he was born in a workhouse like his wife. Maybe those births missed registration easier?
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Re: Looking for a birth certificate
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 February 18 13:55 GMT (UK) »
It should be here

https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/st%20martin%20in%20the%20fields.html

it could also be here

https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/strand.html

There's this one

Births Mar 1849
READ    Thomas James         S Martin    1   129

who did he marry?
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Sherry-Paddington & Marylebone,
Longhurst-Ealing & Capel, Abinger, Ewhurst & Ockley,
Chandler-Chelsea

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Re: Looking for a birth certificate
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 28 February 18 13:58 GMT (UK) »
St Martin in the Fields, like St George Hanover Square, is a place as well as a district.

Both are in Westminster.

He could have been born elsewhere and grew up in St Martin's thinking tht's where he was born.

Have you tried looking for a baptsim?
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Sherry-Paddington & Marylebone,
Longhurst-Ealing & Capel, Abinger, Ewhurst & Ockley,
Chandler-Chelsea

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Re: Looking for a birth certificate
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 28 February 18 14:00 GMT (UK) »
There is a baptism on Ancestry for a Thomas James Read bn. 6th Nov 1847 bt. 30th Dec 1847 to Thomas and Amelia at St.Martins in the Field. Abode is shown as workhouse.

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Re: Looking for a birth certificate
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 28 February 18 14:03 GMT (UK) »
The image shows the birth to be 6th December 1848
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Sherry-Paddington & Marylebone,
Longhurst-Ealing & Capel, Abinger, Ewhurst & Ockley,
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Re: Looking for a birth certificate
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 28 February 18 14:17 GMT (UK) »
Is that them in Lambeth in 1871?   
659/17/28

GRO BIRTHS
REED, HENRY  THOMAS     mmnSHORLAND 
1869  J Quarter in PANCRAS  Volume 01B  Page 39

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Re: Looking for a birth certificate
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 28 February 18 14:20 GMT (UK) »
Ah OK. I looked at the church record and it is very feint and looked to me like Nov, but now you say that and looking at other dates and the bits that are visible do show December. Also there is the workhouse record of the birth on A too and that confirms December.
Thomas (snr) and Amelia looked to be regulars at the workhouse.