Catherine Rooney and John Conroy

[garydevine]

I was wondering if someone can help find deaths or info on these two

Catherine Rooney and John Conroy. Me and a relative speculate this Catherine is our relative but there isnt much info on her.

Catherine was the daughter of Michael Rooney and Mary Mena (name varies alot!) she was born 1827-1830 in Ireland but not sure what part, we cant find a death certificate for her but my distant cousins done Ancestry dna and got in contact with a Conroy who he thinks hes descended from Catherine and her husband John, I cant find a marriage for the two but a son John was born in 1857 in Glasgow and then they disappear from census records in scotland so may have went to england or something and died there. Any help would be great 

[capricorn]

There is a John, Catherine and son John in 1861 English Census
From familysearch

County  Durham
 Parish:   Southwick
 District:   Sunderland

Address     Ogle Terrace

John Conroy aged 30 born Ireland.....occ Labourer Iron Ship
Catherine aged 26 born Ireland  (wife)
John aged 3 born Scotland
Mary aged 1 born Scotland

1871

Bishop Wearmouth, Durham, England

Catherine Conroy  Widowed aged 35   born Ireland
John Conroy Son aged 13   born Scotland
Mary Conroy Daughter aged 10 born Scotland
William Conroy   Son aged 1 born    Sunderland, Durham

[garydevine]

Perfect!!

Thats great thank you! so John died in 1870 or 1871 then. Is there anyway to find his death or catherine or maybe even any children since theres a gap between Mary and William or deaths of the 71 kids

[Forfarian]

Perfect!!
Thats great thank you! so John died in 1870 or 1871 then. Is there anyway to find his death or catherine or maybe even any children since theres a gap between Mary and William or deaths of the 71 kids

They should be indexed at https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl  and https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp but I don't see John listed anywhere on either. I wonder if he died at sea, or could he have gone to Ireland and died there?

[capricorn]

There is a death for a John Conroy in Sunderland
which may fit

From GRO Index

John Conroy aged 32
1863 D Quarter 1863

[trish1120]

Yes that Death Reg looks good and it appears to me that William 1870 was illegitimate;

1871 the Family is under Carrey on An.

Could this be William GRO Birth Reg:
CANEY, WILLIAM , mo Mothers mn***
GRO Reference: 1871  S Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 620

Spelling is out but with a Irish accent could be misheard by register??

[garydevine]

guess it would depend if they can be found in the 81 census with the same misspelled names.

Caney and Conroy are quite different in hearing would be difficult to get them mixed up

[trish1120]

From memory a Tree has John marrying in Ireland. Did they go back there by 1881 Census?

[capricorn]

John is listed as a soldier in 1881 census........
Could have been posted to Ireland and married there

John Conroy age 23 born Scotland  (single)
   
Registration District   Ecclesall Bierlow
Occ   Private 2/19th Regiment