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Re: Annie Matilda Sherwood
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 01 March 18 00:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi MMHosto

I see you have recorded on your tree, Robert CUPPLES and Annie Matilda SHERWOOD as the parents of the aforementioned adopted children.   ???

Just curious (again)  ;D about why you have come to that conclusion (in view of the fact that you're now seeking the "birth"  father (fathers).  ?

Would be great too if you could share any other relevant information with us.  :)
[Saves us looking up a lot of extraneous info which can be very time consuming. ]

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Re: Annie Matilda Sherwood
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 01 March 18 00:28 GMT (UK) »
From what I can see, Robert CUPPLES (b. Antrim, Ireland c. 1839), wife Jemima and one infant son, arrived in NZ c. 1863.   First NZ-born child in 1866.

*   Do we know when Jemima CUPPLES and (presumably) some or all of, her children departed New Zealand for Australia ??

*   Did Annie SHERWOOD step in as housekeeper to Robert CUPPLES before or after Mrs CUPPLES' departure to Australia ??

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Re: Annie Matilda Sherwood
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 01 March 18 00:43 GMT (UK) »
Just adding also, the birth and death registrations for the infant born to Annie Matilda in 1892.

Birth
1892 - LYE - Hugh Cupples
Mother:   Annie Matilda
Father :  N/R  (not recorded)
Birth registered at Riverton.


Death - NZ Birth Index online
1892 - LYE - Hugh Cupples - aged 6 weeks

Burial at Otautau Old Cemetery

Indexed as >    CUPPLES - Hugh Lye - 28 July 1892

[Source:  Some info taken from your tree MMH.  ]

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Re: Annie Matilda Sherwood
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 01 March 18 01:02 GMT (UK) »
[Not necessarily relevant to the search here, but brief obituary (January 1917)  for Mrs. J. J. (paper has "J. G.") CUPPLES, wife of late Robert CUPPLES. ]

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/125934524?searchTerm=Cupples&searchLimits=l-decade=191|||l-year=1917|||l-month=1

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Annie Matilda Sherwood
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 01 March 18 08:54 GMT (UK) »
Hello again Mollie Maloy Hosto

Here is a link to the obituary of Alexander (Alex) CUPPLES, the s/o of Robert and Jemima Jane CUPPLES who sadly died aged 34 at Melbourne, Australia on 1 September 1910.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/128188563?searchTerm=alexander%20cupples&searchLimits=l-decade=191|||l-year=1910

Odd ???   Or not ?   ....  His father, Robert CUPPLES of Broadway, New York, USA .    ???

Edited to add:    Death notices Alexander CUPPLES
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/15182048?searchTerm=alexander%20cupples&searchLimits=l-decade=191|||l-year=1910

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Re: Annie Matilda Sherwood
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 01 March 18 19:22 GMT (UK) »
Hello Mollie Maloy Hosto ... welcome to RootsChat.   :)

Just for starters, I am adding the link to the Probate file of Robert CUPPLES because as well as containing his Will > which names his natural and adopted children > it also contains a copy of his New Zealand Death Certificate, which somewhat oddly in my view  ???, gives as his "living issue"  as  ....   7 males ... and  5 females (that includes those who were adopted) :     

So, in effect, it is indicated, that Robert is the "birth" father of all of these children.   

   ~  Lu

It is my understanding from personal experience that once a child is legally adopted they become the "issue" of the adoptive parent.
There is no facility on a death registration for a FD to state birth or adopted only the number of issues.

Cheers Janette

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Re: Annie Matilda Sherwood
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 01 March 18 23:46 GMT (UK) »
Maybe surplus to requirements and perhaps some repetition. If so, my apologies.......

Death notice of Jemima Jane [1916]

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/221957858?searchTerm=%22robert%20cupples%22&searchLimits=exactPhrase=robert+cupples|||anyWords|||notWords|||requestHandler|||dateFrom=1910-01-01|||dateTo|||sortby

Another short obituary

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/221978087?searchTerm=%22robert%20cupples%22&searchLimits=exactPhrase=robert+cupples|||anyWords|||notWords|||requestHandler|||dateFrom=1910-01-01|||dateTo|||sortby

Marriage of Henry John Hamilton Cupples [1912]

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/175225423?searchTerm=%22robert%20cupples%22&searchLimits=exactPhrase=robert+cupples|||anyWords|||notWords|||requestHandler|||dateFrom=1910-01-01|||dateTo|||sortby


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Annie Matilda Sherwood
« Reply #26 on: Friday 02 March 18 03:03 GMT (UK) »
Came across this old link**......

http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/cupples/171/


From reply #5..

Na Junia's birth:

1984/125769   Cupples   Na Junia Lye   Jemima Jane   Robert

**Maybe still contactable?

Added:Actual date of birth, 18.6.1885.

Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.