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Thomas PARSONS of Heathfield, died c1789 - various SMI lookups, please
« on: Thursday 01 March 18 01:45 GMT (UK) »
Thomas PARSONS of Heathfield made his will in December 1788 and it was proved in May 1789. He was survived by his wife, Sarah, and three children, namely daughters Sarah GASSON & Hannah HARMER and son Henry PARSONS.

Does the SMI have a marriage for Thomas PARSONS and Sarah, around 1730?

And one for Sarah PARSONS and her husband surnamed GASSON, between say 1750 and 1788? Likewise, one for Hannah PARSONS and a HARMER male?

Back to Thomas's will - he names various grandchildren without identifying their parents (his daughters in most cases since they don't have his surname). I guess they are daughters who predeceased him. One of the daughters may have been named Grace; I've not found baptisms for any others and those I have found are doubtful because of the mother being named Elizabeth, not Sarah as in the will.

The grandchildren are Ann Thompson, Elizabeth Potten, John Thompson, Abraham Thompson, Mary Thompson, Hester Brown, Elizabeth Brown, Elizabeth Eastwood and Jane Read. Thomas doesn't give any other identifying information.

I'd like to identify the PARSONS women (and their spouses) who are the parents of these children. Can the SMI help? This may be too much to ask - it's quite possible some of the daughters may have married twice and their second marriages won't be found in the SMI under the PARSONS name.

Thanks for any help.
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Re: Thomas PARSONS of Heathfield, died c1789 - various SMI lookups, please
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 01 March 18 08:41 GMT (UK) »
Hello Stovepipe

Married at Dallington 17 Feb 1731\2


Thomas Parsons
Sarah Roberts (Heathfield ) 

Buxted 16 May 1758

Sarah Parsons
&
John Gaston by Lic

No marriage for a Parsons\Harmer marriage on SMI

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Thomas,Wilkin,James
Glamorganshire
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Husbands side
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Todd,could be Old Windsor or somewhere I Lincolnshire,John Todd didn't seem to know

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Re: Thomas PARSONS of Heathfield, died c1789 - various SMI lookups, please
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 01 March 18 11:19 GMT (UK) »
Hello Stovepipe

Hope these will help somehow

Baptised at Heathfield

Elizabeth 2 Oct 1732
Henry 25 Oct 1734

Children of Thomas And Sarah Parsons

Baptised at Heathfield

Sarah 3 April 1737
Grace 17 May 1739
Hannah 4 Sept 1741

Children of Thomas and Elizabeth Parsons

Something wrong somewhere ?

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Pembrokeshire
James,Gibby,David/Davies,Evan/s,Edward,Thomas,Griffith,Brown,Richards,Phillipps
Carmarthenshire
Thomas,Wilkin,James
Glamorganshire
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Buckinhamshire
Shephard,Tuck,Philips

Scotland,Riddle

Todd,could be Old Windsor or somewhere I Lincolnshire,John Todd didn't seem to know

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Re: Thomas PARSONS of Heathfield, died c1789 - various SMI lookups, please
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 01 March 18 11:46 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks, Omega, that's very helpful information.

My source (PRTS) gives Henry's baptism at Heathfield to Elizabeth, not Sarah. May I ask your source?

What I'm really trying to do here is identify Thomas's wife Sarah (née ROBERTS - thanks again, Omega!), mentioned in the will, with Elizabeth PARSONS, wife of Thomas, recorded in various baptism entries in Heathfield and possibly elsewhere. Those of Thomas's children who are listed in the will (Sarah, Hannah and Henry) all have doubtful baptism records because their mother in the Heathfield register is Elizabeth, not Sarah. Grace is another one, but she's not mentioned in the will. I'm hoping that finding the names of further children will support the identification of Sarah with Elizabeth.

I think it likely that Thomas had only one son, Henry PARSONS, because the only grandson in his will with his surname is his namesake, Thomas PARSONS, and this child's father is not named. Had Thomas other sons then I guess he would have had to have (in his will) guarded against this mention becoming ambiguous through the birth of further namesakes to other sons.

So, can anyone else help with the names of Thomas's daughters not mentioned in his will? Did a Grace PARSONS, for instance, marry anyone with a surname the same as one of Thomas's grandchildren?
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Re: Thomas PARSONS of Heathfield, died c1789 - various SMI lookups, please
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 01 March 18 12:32 GMT (UK) »
Hello Stovepipe

My source is Sussex Family History Group online database,members only
.

Found these marriages
Heathfield 18 May 1763
Grace Parson & John Thomson
 
Heathfield 5 July 1778

Grace Parsons (SP) B
Richard Holmes (Bach)

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Pembrokeshire
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Carmarthenshire
Thomas,Wilkin,James
Glamorganshire
James
Husbands side
Sussex,Mitchell,White,Hew/Hugh,Peter/s,Lower,Goring,Skinner,Cavey,Padgham,Brann,Graves,Hards,Easton,Moon,Gibb/s,Shepherd
Kent,Curties,Harris/Cleverly
Buckinhamshire
Shephard,Tuck,Philips

Scotland,Riddle

Todd,could be Old Windsor or somewhere I Lincolnshire,John Todd didn't seem to know

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Re: Thomas PARSONS of Heathfield, died c1789 - various SMI lookups, please
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 01 March 18 12:43 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou, Omega, for your helpful and prompt reply. The earlier marriage for Grace PARSONS is particularly good to have, it linking her to the Thompson grandchildren in Thomas's will. And if your source for Henry's baptism is more accurate than mine (which is pretty likely) then the evidence mounts for Sarah and Elizabeth being the same person.
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Re: Thomas PARSONS of Heathfield, died c1789 - various SMI lookups, please
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 01 March 18 15:04 GMT (UK) »
Hello again

Been having a poke around  :)

Burial at Heathfield
22 Aril 1812,Sarah Parsons ,aged 99,Widow

Could this be her Baptisum ?

Sarah Roberts at Heathfield
?June 1712
Mum & Dad, George and Ann.

Will see if i can find an Elizabeth

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Pembrokeshire
James,Gibby,David/Davies,Evan/s,Edward,Thomas,Griffith,Brown,Richards,Phillipps
Carmarthenshire
Thomas,Wilkin,James
Glamorganshire
James
Husbands side
Sussex,Mitchell,White,Hew/Hugh,Peter/s,Lower,Goring,Skinner,Cavey,Padgham,Brann,Graves,Hards,Easton,Moon,Gibb/s,Shepherd
Kent,Curties,Harris/Cleverly
Buckinhamshire
Shephard,Tuck,Philips

Scotland,Riddle

Todd,could be Old Windsor or somewhere I Lincolnshire,John Todd didn't seem to know

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Re: Thomas PARSONS of Heathfield, died c1789 - various SMI lookups, please
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 01 March 18 15:13 GMT (UK) »
Hello

I looked for  Baptisum,Marriage & Death for Elizabeth.I too think her and Sarah must be the same person.Unless anyone else knows better.

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Pembrokeshire
James,Gibby,David/Davies,Evan/s,Edward,Thomas,Griffith,Brown,Richards,Phillipps
Carmarthenshire
Thomas,Wilkin,James
Glamorganshire
James
Husbands side
Sussex,Mitchell,White,Hew/Hugh,Peter/s,Lower,Goring,Skinner,Cavey,Padgham,Brann,Graves,Hards,Easton,Moon,Gibb/s,Shepherd
Kent,Curties,Harris/Cleverly
Buckinhamshire
Shephard,Tuck,Philips

Scotland,Riddle

Todd,could be Old Windsor or somewhere I Lincolnshire,John Todd didn't seem to know

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Re: Thomas PARSONS of Heathfield, died c1789 - various SMI lookups, please
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 01 March 18 15:42 GMT (UK) »
Heathfield marriages are indexed on FamilySearch, no doubt are now on other sites (England Marriages, 1538–1973)
include
Samuel Brown + Elizabeth Parsons, 30 July 1758

Image is on FamilySearch
Samuel was a widower of Goudurst (sic)
Elizabeth was a single woman, of the parish
He signed, she marked
By Banns
Witnessed by John Gaston, George Roberts

Baptisms following in Goudhurst, Esther Parson Brown, 30 Sep 1759 and Eliz. Brown, 10 May 1761