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Re: John Hines Birth Brickwall help please.
« Reply #18 on: Friday 02 March 18 10:47 GMT (UK) »
As ever though Rosie, I am cautious- I added a bit. She isn’t there later  :-\

Perhaps needs more work  :)
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Re: John Hines Birth Brickwall help please.
« Reply #19 on: Friday 02 March 18 10:51 GMT (UK) »
It would be nice to know if Alamo is researching John 'Barney' Hines or someone else with a similar name
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Re: John Hines Birth Brickwall help please.
« Reply #20 on: Friday 02 March 18 10:58 GMT (UK) »
A bit more though re Dora Quinlan and Eldon Place/Liverpool matches the record.

It would seem that John ‘Barney’ is likely to be John Heim/s but not the man Alamo is searching for so more information needed there.

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Re: John Hines Birth Brickwall help please.
« Reply #21 on: Friday 02 March 18 11:31 GMT (UK) »
1901 3410/113/13

David and Mary Thompson and children are at 11 Eldon Place, Liverpool.

Cathy,
I think you have found a very likely family.

Heywood

Well done Cathy & Heywood  ;D    At least that ties in with the military record Christine posted

Jacob jnr married Sarah Hutchinson on 27 May 1901. His address 11 Eldon place, one of witnesses was John Heims of 2ct 5th Silvester street. I think it's John, Catholic marriage record so it's in Latin image on Ancestry.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott


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Re: John Hines Birth Brickwall help please.
« Reply #22 on: Friday 02 March 18 11:43 GMT (UK) »
apr 30 1893 Dora Heim 41 widow married Thomas Wait widower. Her address Bond Street, Her father Henri Fanhoff occ farmer. witnesses James Rossiter and Margaret Hurst.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: John Hines Birth Brickwall help please.
« Reply #23 on: Friday 02 March 18 11:49 GMT (UK) »
In 1901 Thomas Wait and wife Dora are living at 11 Eldon place. At same address but possibly separate household are Rose Cleary a 17 year old married woman with a 4 month old son called John.
On marriage record Thomas Wait's address is Gildart Gardens


There is a John Cleary birth reg Q1 1901 Liverpool mmn Heims, so looks like Rose is Dora's daughter. Fits with 1891 census
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: John Hines Birth Brickwall help please.
« Reply #24 on: Friday 02 March 18 12:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi JJen 

John Barney Hines the WW1 Veteran never married.

Christine53 -  I missed that about his mother being Dora on his War Record

I was going to trace his Sister Mrs Mary Thompson nee Hines of 23 Eldon Place, Liverpool - Marrying and work backwards through her life.

We must be on to the right man  :)

Lizzie,
I think I saw that Rose married Patrick Cleary - possibly Rose Ann.

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Re: John Hines Birth Brickwall help please.
« Reply #25 on: Friday 02 March 18 13:19 GMT (UK) »
John Heim b Liverpool attested for 4 battn Liverpool regt on 27 sep 1895 age 18 yr 9 months. Occ blacksmith - like stepfather Thomas Wait. If anyone has FindMyPast  access image is there - has his signature on!
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: John Hines Birth Brickwall help please.
« Reply #26 on: Friday 02 March 18 13:29 GMT (UK) »
He was a blacksmith on the Naval record  :)
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