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Aldridge
« on: Sunday 04 March 18 23:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi there people...

Please could I have a little assistance in marrying up Hampshire, Suffolk and Edinburgh, Scotland with a touch of London!!!

Mary Aldridge1842-1891 was b Southampton, Hants  Her mother is Mary Burrett [possibly Barrett.]
Mary's father is George Aldridge bapt Eling, Hants 1813.

In 1841 the family is in Marchwood, Hampshire with
George aged 25 b in county and Mary 30 b out of county
George aged 3 b 1837 out of county [George Senior states he is a soldier on Junior's baptism.] and Eliza aged 1 b Scotland.

In 1851 we find the family in Paddington with
George 38 b Eling Hants    [Mary Senior has completely disappeared]    with Wife Ann  36 b Portobello, Scotland
George 13 b Suffolk, Eliza 11 b Portobello, Mary 9 b All Saints Southampton and Chartotte 3 b Greenland, Scotland  [Greenland is near Inverness, nowhere near Edinburgh]

In 1861 Charlotte aged 14  in St Pancras states she is born in Edinburgh

George had three wives... Mary, [pre 37??]   Ann [post 42 pre 56 ] and Rebecca Sharman Potter nee Forder Jul 56.

What I am after
1.  The date and location of Mary Burrett/Barrett's birth, her marriage to George Aldridge [presumably sometime in the 1830s] and the date and location of her death after 13 Jun 1842 when Mary was born.
2.  The date and location of the marriage, presumably in Scotland of George to Ann and the date and location of her subsequent death.
3    Who is Charlotte's mother??

Thank you very much in anticipation

Best wishes
Mark

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Re: Aldridge
« Reply #1 on: Monday 05 March 18 00:06 GMT (UK) »
Not sure which of the threads to post on!

Anyway - Mary junior must have been born before 13 Jun 1842 (was it 13 Jan perhaps?) as her birth was registered in the Jan-Mar qtr (Southampton) with mmn Burrett.

Possible for motherís death soon afterwards: Mary Ann Aldridge aged 34, Jun qtr 1842 Southampton.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Aldridge
« Reply #2 on: Monday 05 March 18 08:53 GMT (UK) »
George 13 b Suffolk, Eliza 11 b Portobello, Mary 9 b All Saints Southampton and Chartotte 3 b Greenland, Scotland  [Greenland is near Inverness, nowhere near Edinburgh]

There are five other Greenlands in Scotland named on the 1:50,000 Ordnance Survey maps
Caithness http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/ND2467
Dunbarton http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NS4374
Argyll http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NR7323
Shetland http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/HU2249
Aberdeen http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ8118

None of these can by any stretch of the imagination described as 'near' either Inverness or Edinburgh - they are all at least 100 miles from Inverness, and only the Dunbartonshire one is less than 100 miles from Edinburgh, so if you have found one near Inverness, and Charlotte says her birthplace is Greenland in or near Edinburgh, there must be at least two more.

The Midlothian Name Book of 1852/1853 lists a Greenland Mill in the parish of St Cuthbert's, which is in Edinburgh. It was a flour mill and it was 'about 8 chains ENE of Trinity Chapel'. 8 chains is about 150 metres.

This can't have been the Trinity Chapel which was roughly where Waverley Station is now. See https://collections.ed.ac.uk/calendars/record/19466 and was demolished about 1848, because the same book says that Dean Bridge Cottage is 'about 4 chains NNW of Trinity Chapel'. This makes far more sense than Calton Hill, because the Dean Bridge (built 1831) crosses the Water of Leith, and the Water of Leith was lined with mills of all kinds - flour, barley, paper, snuff and other commodities.

Other mills listed with reference to 'Trinity Chapel' are West Mill, Mar's Mill, and Lindsay's Mill. So I took a look at some of the old town plans of Edinburgh and found http://maps.nls.uk/view/74400935 which shows Trinity Chapel and some mills.

On the site of this Trinity Chapel is now Holy Trinity Church, built as an Episcopal church in 1837/1838. It was converted to an electricity sub-station, but I think is now back in ecclesiastical use by some minority denomination or other. See http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2697521.

So I reckon that Charlotte's birthplace must have been beside the Water of Leith, downstream of the Dean Bridge and before you get to St Bernard's Well.

There's no record of her baptism in Scotland's People, but that isn't surprising. As an English family, they probably attended an Anglican church, and the Episcopal Church in Scotland records are not included in Scotland's People.

In fact, there's a good chance she was baptised in Holy Trinity Church. I have no idea whether its registers have survived, and if so where they might be, but if you are really keen to find out I suggest starting with the diocesan office of the Scottish Episcopal Church https://www.scotland.anglican.org/. If you can find this, it should tell you the surname of Charlotte's mother.


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Re: Aldridge
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 13 March 18 14:29 GMT (UK) »
Researching

AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; GUTHRIE, Angus; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes/Mortlach; MENDUM, England; MOLLISON, Lethnot; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOR(R)I/E/Y, Shotts; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Angus; YOUNG, Keith

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Re: Aldridge
« Reply #4 on: Friday 30 March 18 21:11 BST (UK) »
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I would hardly call that helpful!!! 
The old adage Nothing nice to say.... don't bother!!!

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Re: Aldridge
« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 March 18 21:12 BST (UK) »
I did thank everyone!!!!
c'est la vie!!!!
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Re: Aldridge
« Reply #6 on: Friday 30 March 18 21:25 BST (UK) »
You may have acknowledged help on on some other thread, but I have seen only this one. I didn't know until now whether or not you had received the information I spent some time and effort looking up for you. I still don't know if it was useful.
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; GUTHRIE, Angus; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes/Mortlach; MENDUM, England; MOLLISON, Lethnot; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOR(R)I/E/Y, Shotts; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Angus; YOUNG, Keith