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1939 Census help please.
« on: Monday 05 March 18 21:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi All
I have just looked at the 1939 census for the first time & found my great grandparents. I'm just a bit baffled.
My grandfather was Robert Doel b1892 & his wife was Nellie Caroline Richards b1898. They married in 1918 & stayed that way until 1945 when Robert died. Nellie went on to be with a chap called ? Daniel. My grandad didn't like him & my dad met him once. As far as I can see they didn't marry, yet on the census her surname is crossed out & Daniel clearly written over with some numbers. One looks like a date 12/8/54.
What I'd like to know is why would a 1939 census be changed in 1954? Can anyone through some light on this please?

Thanks Suz.

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Re: 1939 Census help please.
« Reply #1 on: Monday 05 March 18 21:20 GMT (UK) »
It's not a census, it's a "register". It was updated up until recently hence the additions. The name change indicates that the couple did marry. Have you checked freebmd to see if you can find a marriage?

Some information about the register here:
https://www.findmypast.com.au/1939register/what-is-the-1939-register

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Re: 1939 Census help please.
« Reply #2 on: Monday 05 March 18 21:21 GMT (UK) »
The 1939 register was updated to include changes of surname.
Maybe you need to look harder for a marriage?
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Re: 1939 Census help please.
« Reply #3 on: Monday 05 March 18 21:27 GMT (UK) »
Since 1948 the Register had been used by the National Health Service, who continued updating the records until 1991, when paper-based record-keeping was discontinued.

Changes of name for any reason were recorded; in practice this was mostly when women changed their surnames on marriage or re-marriage, but also includes changes of name for any other reason, such as by deed poll.


Could this be her death? -

Nellie C Daniel
Death Age - 57
Birth Date - abt 1899
Registration Date - Mar 1956
Registration district - Portsmouth
Inferred County - Hampshire
Vol 6b Page 731

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Re: 1939 Census help please.
« Reply #4 on: Monday 05 March 18 21:29 GMT (UK) »
FreeBMD has this marriage:

Gladstone W Daniel m Nellie C Poel    Portsmouth    6b   1055

I suspect the original handwriting was not legible  ;)

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Re: 1939 Census help please.
« Reply #5 on: Monday 05 March 18 21:35 GMT (UK) »
Well found Nell  ;D


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Re: 1939 Census help please.
« Reply #6 on: Monday 05 March 18 21:39 GMT (UK) »
It looks like he married again the same year Nellie died?

Marriages Dec 1956   

Bond    Lillian G    Daniel    Portsmouth    6b   863    
Daniel    Gladstone W    Bond    Portsmouth    6b   863    

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Re: 1939 Census help please.
« Reply #7 on: Monday 05 March 18 21:41 GMT (UK) »
Deaths Mar 1965   
DANIEL    GLADSTONE W    75    PORTSMOUTH    6B   702

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Re: 1939 Census help please.
« Reply #8 on: Monday 05 March 18 21:44 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if this was Lilian remarrying the same year Gladstone died?

Marriages Sep 1965   

DANIEL    LILIAN G    PUNTIS    PORTSMOUTH    6B   1393    
Puntis    George F    Daniel    Portsmouth    6b   1393