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Re: TWO BAPTISMS FOR THE SAME PERSON 1805 & 1809 - Manley
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 07 March 18 10:24 GMT (UK) »
Do you have Edward jnr in 1841?

And no sign of Hannah anywhere?
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Re: TWO BAPTISMS FOR THE SAME PERSON 1805 & 1809 - Manley
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 07 March 18 10:38 GMT (UK) »
Just putting this here for completeness - no idea if involved in the fun (though same church...):

Thos Wheeler
baptised, 26 Feb 1809 St James, Piccadilly
Thos Wheeler
Frances Wheeler
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Re: TWO BAPTISMS FOR THE SAME PERSON 1805 & 1809 - Manley
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 07 March 18 11:45 GMT (UK) »
Do you have Edward jnr in 1841?

And no sign of Hannah anywhere?

Yes I have Edward Jnr in 1841, 1851 & 1861 until he died in 1865.  He was a hairdresser as were all the male children going down the tree until 1934. 

No trace of Hannah or Edward (that I can find!)


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Re: TWO BAPTISMS FOR THE SAME PERSON 1805 & 1809 - Manley
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 07 March 18 11:46 GMT (UK) »
Just putting this here for completeness - no idea if involved in the fun (though same church...):

Thos Wheeler
baptised, 26 Feb 1809 St James, Piccadilly
Thos Wheeler
Frances Wheeler

Thats the same year - the mind boggles!

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Re: TWO BAPTISMS FOR THE SAME PERSON 1805 & 1809 - Manley
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 07 March 18 12:05 GMT (UK) »
Not an uncommon name though, especially in a large place such as London, so may just be a coincidence.
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Re: TWO BAPTISMS FOR THE SAME PERSON 1805 & 1809 - Manley
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 07 March 18 12:07 GMT (UK) »
The only entry I can find for a Hannah Manley in the London area are two workhouse discharge entries.  20th June & 9th August 1944.  St Martins, Westminster.

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Re: TWO BAPTISMS FOR THE SAME PERSON 1805 & 1809 - Manley
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 07 March 18 12:15 GMT (UK) »
Not an uncommon name though, especially in a large place such as London, so may just be a coincidence.

Indeed I'm just going round in circles.  The name Edward suggest that his father is Edward unless they are two different Edwd Jnrs.  I can't find anything on Hannah, Edward snr or Thomas Wheeler.
Think this is going to remain mystery. 

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Re: TWO BAPTISMS FOR THE SAME PERSON 1805 & 1809 - Manley
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 07 March 18 12:46 GMT (UK) »
Got her!!! 

She was admitted to (presumably the Workshouse?) Westminster, St James, Piccadilly, London, England on 18th October 1805 as Hanh Manley.
Under her name it says "Male born 6th November 1805"
On her admission she was 20 and pregnant.
 She was admitted by the order of Mr Evans.
Under the Settlement column it says " N12 ?137 BB" I don't know what that means.
Under clothes it says "1 shift and Decent"
In the remarks column it says "Never in the Hs before"
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Re: TWO BAPTISMS FOR THE SAME PERSON 1805 & 1809 - Manley
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 07 March 18 17:12 GMT (UK) »
Got her!!! 

She was admitted to (presumably the Workshouse?) Westminster, St James, Piccadilly, London, England on 18th October 1805 as Hanh Manley.
Under her name it says "Male born 6th November 1805"
On her admission she was 20 and pregnant.
 She was admitted by the order of Mr Evans.
Under the Settlement column it says " N12 ?137 BB" I don't know what that means.
Under clothes it says "1 shift and Decent"
In the remarks column it says "Never in the Hs before"

This is absolutely incredible. Thank you so much for looking into this for me.  I cannot tell you how happy I am you've found something concrete.

Thank you again (this means so much to me)