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Re: TWO BAPTISMS FOR THE SAME PERSON 1805 & 1809 - Manley
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 06 March 18 19:58 GMT (UK) »
As he was baptised at two different churches, she probably didn't mention he'd already been baptised.  ;D
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Re: TWO BAPTISMS FOR THE SAME PERSON 1805 & 1809 - Manley
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 06 March 18 20:24 GMT (UK) »
Would the father have to be there for a baptism? (this would assuming she didn't marry a cousin?)

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Re: TWO BAPTISMS FOR THE SAME PERSON 1805 & 1809 - Manley
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 06 March 18 20:44 GMT (UK) »
I've just looked at the second baptism and it definitely refers to Hannah as the wife of Edward, and gives his occupation as a labourer, doesn't it?

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Re: TWO BAPTISMS FOR THE SAME PERSON 1805 & 1809 - Manley
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 06 March 18 20:59 GMT (UK) »
Yes it does. Even though I can't find anything on the two of them after this.  Maybe it was her cousin.  I don't think I'll ever solve this mystery.  I wonder if I paid someone to look into it they might be able to uncover something? 

Thank you for looking at it - I really appreciate your time.


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Re: TWO BAPTISMS FOR THE SAME PERSON 1805 & 1809 - Manley
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 06 March 18 21:08 GMT (UK) »
It would probably cost you quite a bit to hire one and if they didn't actually marry you might waste your money. Before doing that, why not ask a Mod to move this post to the  London and Middlesex board, as there may be someone who has access to parish records or similar and who could help. Just click on the Report to Mod under your post.
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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 06 March 18 21:32 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much for your help. I've done just that and asked for the post to be moved.  Thanks again - Michelle

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Re: TWO BAPTISMS FOR THE SAME PERSON 1805 & 1809 - Manley
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 06 March 18 22:40 GMT (UK) »
I've just looked at the second baptism and it definitely refers to Hannah as the wife of Edward, and gives his occupation as a labourer, doesn't it?
Baptism entry for a grandchild of one of my ancestors which has his name as father gives his occupation and address. 5 of his genuine children were baptised at the same church in the previous decade. Actually I'm suspecting the youngest of those 5 may have been another grandchild. Baptisms took place at a busy church in a rapidly growing town; overworked curates probably didn't waste time querying information they were given by mothers.
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Re: TWO BAPTISMS FOR THE SAME PERSON 1805 & 1809 - Manley
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 06 March 18 22:44 GMT (UK) »
I wonder what happened at the actual service though, would both parents be expected to be there, together with godparents? I wonder if a vicar would question it if just the mother turned up?
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Re: TWO BAPTISMS FOR THE SAME PERSON 1805 & 1809 - Manley
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 07 March 18 09:53 GMT (UK) »
I wonder what happened at the actual service though, would both parents be expected to be there, together with godparents? I wonder if a vicar would question it if just the mother turned up?

This is something that I would love to know too.  I haven't really looked into Thomas Wheeler but its starting to look like he is the father.  Would love something more concrete but as it is with these things we can only go by the information available.

Is there anything else I can do? or look at?  I think I've exhausted my resources.

Thank you for the replies.  Much appreciated