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Baby Grave
« on: Tuesday 06 March 18 19:53 GMT (UK) »
Hello

I am actually from and living in Co Antrim however I have a big stumbling block that I have researched for 8 years now with no luck.

I have been trying to ascertain the final resting place of my aunt who died when she was nearly 2 in 1917.

Hester Cooper born 25/2/1916 to Archibald and Sarah Cooper living at 95 Glenwood Street.

Hester died 4/12/1917 at the above address due to Tubercular Meningitis and I do have the death certificate.

She is not in the cemeteries that Belfast City Council manage and as far as I can ascertain is not in Millfield.

She 'may' be in Shankill Graveyard as that is where they are from but again searching the fragments I cannot find her.  I don't want to give up as she was the first child of my Grandfather and he never really got over her death.  He was a religious man if that helps.  Are there any church graveyards about the Shankill that are not covered by Belfast City Council?

Any hints even would be great as I feel I must solve this one.

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Re: Baby Grave
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 06 March 18 20:10 GMT (UK) »
I am not sure if this will help but if you are looking for a grave rather than a burial that may be the stumbling block.
Often people of modest means could not afford a grave,babies and small children were often buried with other people not related to them.A communal grave.
My mother`s two baby brothers were buried in such graves with twenty and twenty two people respectively. Both are properly recorded but are on top of a lot of other people.Then more on top of them.
You may have explored this avenue and if so I apologise.Viktoria.

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Re: Baby Grave
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 06 March 18 20:18 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the info.  The problem is there are no burial records I can find.  Belfast City Council do not have any records of her.  If she was in a communal grave then surely there would still be a record.

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Re: Baby Grave
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 06 March 18 22:54 GMT (UK) »
I see your point,there should be a record somewhere.

Could church records help? I realise you don`t know which church.
Hope you make a break through.Viktoria.


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Re: Baby Grave
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 06 March 18 23:03 GMT (UK) »
Infants and small children were some sometimes buried with grandparents or other relatives. Do you know what religion the family were and where they attended church? In Ireland it's usually only the Church of Ireland that kept burial records so it may be difficult to find an unmarked grave.
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Re: Baby Grave
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 07 March 18 09:36 GMT (UK) »
According to census they were Presbyterian.

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Re: Baby Grave
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 07 March 18 11:13 GMT (UK) »
So she would be buried in the  "Non Com"----non conformist part of any public cemetery and not in a church cemetery as she was not Church of England (or Ireland).
So in a chapel burial place or the Non Com part of any public burial place.
So narrowed down a bit. Best of luck.
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Re: Baby Grave
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 07 March 18 11:22 GMT (UK) »
Some people take a few photos when they visit a Cemetery that might be of help to others, and put them on the likes of IGP

Have you tried    http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/    and searched "Headstones" in whatever County is for Belfast?
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Re: Baby Grave
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 07 March 18 13:28 GMT (UK) »
So she would be buried in the  "Non Com"----non conformist part of any public cemetery and not in a church cemetery as she was not Church of England (or Ireland).
So in a chapel burial place or the Non Com part of any public burial place.
So narrowed down a bit. Best of luck.
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Things are a bit different here in Northern Ireland. Presbyterians would normally be buried in -
1) Presbyterian burying-ground, or
2) Church of Ireland graveyard (if family had a plot there), or
3) cemetery
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