Ridley's

[Catherine Wait]

Hi all, please could a kind person have a fresh look at the following and see if they agree with my conclusions?

Starting with what it definitely correct:-
William Ridley (20/12/1859-2/8/1928 SA) as per birth cert.
Mother: Elizabeth Ridley nee Turnbull Father: John Ridley Ag Lab "Longhaugh Shields" Charlton East
Following John Ridley
Census 1841 (H0107 841/4) - 20-24 yrs  living at "White House" Kirkwhelpington NBL
Marriage cert  -24/10/1846 Thockrington m Elizabeth Turnbull father: William occ: Husbandman
Census 1851 (H0107 2417/144)- John Ridley Ag Lab 30yrs born Hill Head NBL
Census 1861 - John Ridley Wid. 40 yrs  Ag Lab "Longhaugh Shields" Birth Town: St John Lee (I know it is not a town but a parish!!)
Census 1871 - John Ridley Wid. 50yrs Railway Lab Bellingham Mill, Bellingham.
Possible death  2 Q 1879 Rothbury.

Conclusion 1
Birth for John Ridley:  1821 parents Mary and William Lab at Errington Hill Head
                                 Bap 14/4/1821 at St John Lee.

If parents are correct then who was Mary?
Conclsion 2
Have a suitable marriage William Ridley to Mary Codling 4/4/1802 at St Bartholomew's Kirkwhelpington. I bit earlier than I expected, but don't find any other.
This couple have the following children:
Joseph 30/6/1802 Bap: Kirkwhelpington
Isabel   19/10/1803           "
Elizabeth 15/8/1805          "
Codling 21/7/1809            "
Mark 12/5/1811                "
William 1813             Heartburn
Mary    1815           St John Lee
Mathew 1815                  "
Ann  1818                      "
Robert  1819                  "
Jane 1820                      "
John 1821                      "
Margaret 1822                "

Census 1851 - William Ridley 73 born Warch? NBL(Think this should be Wark ??)
                       Mary Ridley 75 born Kirkwhelpington NBL
                      Isabella dau 48 born        "     
                      Robert son 34 born St Jonley NBL

Then possible birth for William bap 7/2/1779 at Simonburn - parents Thomas Ridley and Elizabeth Moor.
Problem: I would expect to find a son named "Thomas" born to William and Mary !!!!

Thanks for any help.

Regards
Catherine


 

[fiddlerslass]

Hi,
 There is a daughter Mary to William RIDLEY/ Mary CODLING bapt Kirkwhelpington 1807 according to the BT's

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DTX3-JV5?i=95&wc=9K53-7MQ%3A13617901%2C23850901%2C23850902&cc=1309819

William Native of Haydon - could be Haydon Bridge

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NBL/HaydonBridge

Elizabeth RIDLEY 2nd daughter bapt Kirkwhelpington 1806  - William of Haydon again.

However,
 There was a marriage at Gateshead July 28th 1816 by licence between a William RIDLEY of St John Lee and Mary DINNEN of Gateshead parish

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-62T7-D9G?i=201&wc=9K5S-VZ9%3A13618101%2C24866801%2C25372001&cc=1309819

This could be the couple as I cannot see any children bapt at Gateshead for them , so they may have  resided at St John Lee.


I think this is the William & Mary having children at Kirkwhelpington in 1841 census

HO107/841/2/5 Harle Village West, Kirkwhelpington all born NBL
William RIDLEY 63
Mary        "      65
Mark       "       29
Robert    "       22
Isabella   "       26
William   "       13

Isabella may be a daughter in law? William a grandson

There are a couple of William RIDLEYs  in the 1841/51 census one of  which could be the one who married Mary DINNIN. I think it would be worth looking at the deaths in St John Lee to see if you can try to sort out the various Williams, and also the actual birth register if you have not already done so to see if you can get more detail on where they lived.

Check for wills here

http://familyrecords.dur.ac.uk/nei/data/simple.php

[Catherine Wait]

Hi, yes the daughter Mary does belong to them - will check when I have a chance, i think she probably dies young as there is a later daughter also Mary.

Isabella has a son William which looks like he is illegitimate, she has a problem remembering her age, on different census her age is always younger than she actually was.

I have tried all morning to either disproof the Gateshead William and Mary or get more proof for the Kirkwhelpington couple.  All the BT's I need, the years don't exist or no records for that time span.  The only reason that I had all the children as belonging to Kirkwhelpington William and Mary is on the 1851 census, Isabella dau is born Kirk. and Robert son is born St John Lee.  So they definitely had children baptised both places, but are do all the children baptised at St John Lee belong to them?

Will have to keep looking.  Thanks for your input.

Regards
Catherine

[ciderdrinker]

Hello
Looking at the children at St John Lee
Mary 27 Aug 1815------
Mathew 27 Aug 1815 husbandman Errington hill Head
Ann 26.7.1818 schoolmaster  Acomb
Robert 23 .5.1819 lab Errington Hill Head
John 14.4.1821 lab Errington Hill Head
Jane 29.10.1820 labourer Acomb
Margaret 24.11.1822 lab Acomb -5.4.1840 age 25 years

So there are two William and Mary's but it looks as though most of them are yours.
You have the right censuses 1841 and 1851.

I agree with everything you have.
The birthplace for William in 1851 is Warden which is hear Hexham.
And that baptism is the only one there.There are no Ridleys at Warden.

Ciderdrinker

[Catherine Wait]

Hi, Ciderdrinker - that makes me feel better.

Thanks for the help
Catherine

[Catherine Wait]

Hi, had a bit more time to dig around and indeed the Mary Ridley that fidderslass found bap to William and Mary at Kirkwhelpington died age 7 and buried at Kirkwhelpington 17/5/1815. 

Ciderdrinker:  "The birthplace for William in 1851 is Warden which is hear Hexham.
And that baptism is the only one there."  I have searched for this bap, but it eludes me!! Please could you give me the link.

William Ridley (dob 1777/8), according to the 1851 census birthplace is Warden, however at the children's bap in Kirkwhelpington, he is a native of Heydon.  The BT's for Warden 1825-1844 are "Warden and Chapelry of Heydon" so is it possible that they lived in Heydon and the bap was in Warden?

Regards
Catherine