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Offline cath151

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Re: Henry James Norris (grandfather)
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 08 March 18 18:39 GMT (UK) »
So does mine a bit :)
Witnesses from wedding on 1926, St John the Evangelist, St George in the East
Samuel C Duncan (I think)
Albert F H Goss  (Eleanor Jane 's maiden name, her father was a Elijah ? Goss
Elsie E A Fredericks

Cathy
Sinnock/Sinnicks...Brighton,Greenwich.
Clements,Coles,Mc Donagh,Rock

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Re: Henry James Norris (grandfather)
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 08 March 18 18:39 GMT (UK) »
Ok - here's what I think happened.

1888: Henry Norris (snr) married Esther Clark
1890: Henry and Esther Norris had a son, Henry James Norris
??: Henry Norris snr died
1905: Esther Norris nee Clark remarried to Samuel Barnett
1910: Esther Barnett nee Clark died, leaving Samuel Barnett a widower
1914: Samuel Barnett remarried to widow Esther Stickland and moved into her home, 20 Sheridan St
1915: Samuel Barnett died aged 56 (Whitechapel)
1916: Henry Norris joined the Army, naming his stepmother Esther Barnett of 20 Sheridan St as NOK
1918: Esther (having reverted to surname Stickland) remained at 20 Sheridan St - until her death in 1933.
1926: Henry Norris married widow Elener Fredericks, possibly having met her through some connection with the Fredericks and Norris households who lived at 65 Sheridan St by 1918 at the latest.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Henry James Norris (grandfather)
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 08 March 18 18:54 GMT (UK) »
Witnesses to marriage are Elsie Fredericks, Albert Goss and what looks like Samuel C Duncan

Fredericks from first Marriage

The Goss comes from my mothers side As it was Elener Jane Goss before Fredericks

And also Edna , connie and pat were small in stature

see pic of Gladys fredericks, and the 3 girls with Elener

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Re: Henry James Norris (grandfather)
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 08 March 18 19:06 GMT (UK) »
I've not come across Sheridan St yet but will see if its possible, Frederick C Fredericks died in 1925 according to my records but so far in my family nothing is as it seems.   

they lived at Barley Mow, 104 Commercial Road, St George In East and license holders were

1911/Sarah Cammell/Mother (Widow)/84

1915/Elijah Francis Goss/beer retailer

1921/Elijah Francis Goss/Beer Retailer

1923/Elijah Francis Goss/Beer Retailer

1926/Mrs E Fredericks/Beer Retailer

If it the right Henry they lived in the next street at one time


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Re: Henry James Norris (grandfather)
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 08 March 18 19:19 GMT (UK) »
Plenty to sort through, thanks for the info so far, will see if I can gather any hints from my mother somehow as well to try and tie it together

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Re: Henry James Norris (grandfather)
« Reply #23 on: Monday 09 April 18 20:17 BST (UK) »
 I'm not sure if this adds to the discussion but Esther Barnett (nee Cootner) was my 2nd great grandmother.  She married William Stickland in 1887 and by 1911 she was widowed and living at 20 Sheridon St.  She married Samuel Barnett around 1914 and died in 1933 whilst still living at Sheridon St.

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Re: Henry James Norris (grandfather)
« Reply #24 on: Friday 20 April 18 07:48 BST (UK) »
Thanks Lisa,  It all helps me with my tree as my mother doesn't like to talk about it as Henry left her mother with all the children to look after.  They moved to Ilford after he left them without any support but I'm looking for his death and possible grave at the moment