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Edward Lazell mystery man
« on: Thursday 08 March 18 21:57 GMT (UK) »
I am wondering whether this should have been posted under Middlesex, but you will appreciate the dilemma!
Edward Lazell was (according to the various dates he gave in censuses) born in 1791, 1792, 1796, or 1797, and gave his birthplace variously as St John's Hackney, or Bethnal Green. (St John's, interestingly, was in process of being built between 1791 and 1797.) No evidence of a birth/baptism in either place. He first married in Runwell, Essex, in 1815, when his parish was given as Wickford. He and his wife Susannah had five children in Wickford, all registered in the Independent nonconformist register. Between 1828 and 1835 they had four more at North Benfleet (poor woman) and she died in 1835. Edward married again the same year and he and his second wife Maria went on to have further children, all born at North Benfleet. He died in 1879 and is buried at North Benfleet. There are a fair few Lazells in Essex (see other threads) but I can't link them with Edward.
I have come across a situation before where someone gave two different parishes for his birthplace in different censuses, and in that case the individual turned out to be illegitimate. His mother lived in one and I eventually found him listed in that as her illegitimate child under her name, but his father evidently paid for his upkeep and he was brought up in the 'paternal' parish, later adopting his father's surname. However, I haven't found anything which would indicate this to be the solution in Edward's case.
Has anyone any suggestions? I feel that the fact that he was a nonconformist might be significant, but without any real reason for this ...
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Re: Edward Lazell mystery man
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 March 18 12:39 GMT (UK) »
Not much help, but one of the witnesses at the Runwell marriage was a John Layzell.


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Re: Edward Lazell mystery man
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 March 18 12:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sue, and yes, I have tried to make some use of him (John) without success! Thank you for your reply, however.
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Re: Edward Lazell mystery man
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09 March 18 19:12 GMT (UK) »
Have you tried searching for different spellings? There's a Layzell family in my tree, and at different points in history it is also spelled as LAZELL and LAZZELL, and there are probably even more variations!
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Re: Edward Lazell mystery man
« Reply #4 on: Friday 09 March 18 22:34 GMT (UK) »
Yes indeed, and that too has not worked! Thank you for your comment.
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Re: Edward Lazell mystery man
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 10 March 18 06:20 GMT (UK) »
Have you looked at wills? There are these at Chelmsford:

Thomas LAZELL of Basildon, yeoman 1784
Hannah LAYZEL of Terling, spinster 1802
Judy LAZELL of Hatfield Peverel, widow 1839
Thomas LAZELL of Sible Hedingham, cordwainer 1846
Mead - Herts, Bucks, Essex
Pontifex - Bucks
Goldhurst - London, Middx, Herts
Kellogg/Kelhog - Essex, Cambs

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Re: Edward Lazell mystery man
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 March 18 07:22 GMT (UK) »
There are also these PCC wills at the National Archives:

Mary Lazell, of Felsted, Essex, widow, 1771
Sarah Layzell, of Paul Street Finsbury, Middx, widow, 1844
Mead - Herts, Bucks, Essex
Pontifex - Bucks
Goldhurst - London, Middx, Herts
Kellogg/Kelhog - Essex, Cambs

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Re: Edward Lazell mystery man
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 10 March 18 07:36 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, Vance! Lazell definitely seems to be an Essex name and there are squads (nearly put squids) of them about. However, I can't tie any of them definitely to Edward at present and I am only doing this investigation as a brief exercise. I will however pass these references on to my friend. Many thanks.
Condick; Bull (Herefordshire only); Layard; Wilmot; Southgate; Fowlie (Singapore branch); Usher (Dundrum); Kelley (Lancashire);