Author Topic: Alexander McLeod b.10/05/1871 Dundee - Death?  (Read 2821 times)

Offline youngones82

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 26
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Alexander McLeod b.10/05/1871 Dundee - Death?
« on: Saturday 10 March 18 17:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,

I am trying to find the death record for my ancestor Alexander McLeod:

Born in Dundee on 10th May 1871 to Daniel McLeod and Alison Grubb.
Married Margaret Thomson on 12th February 1892 in Dundee.
His son Daniel McLeod was born in Dundee on 7th May 1897. Alexander registered the birth on 19th May 1897.
On 6th October 1899 Margaret Thomson McLeod, his widow, remarried in Dundee.


So Alexander died sometime between 19th May 1897 and 6th October 1899, but I cannot find the record of his death. I have searched Scotland's People. Definitely nothing in Dundee but cannot find any records that match anywhere else in Scotland either. I have searched Ancestry in case he moved away before he died but haven't found anything.

I was wondering if anyone might have any ideas or be able to help?

Also, I was wondering if widows had to prove their marital status before remarrying? Would Margaret have been able to lie? Maybe Alexander left the family and I am making my search criteria too narrow?

Thanks.

Offline rosie17

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 10,089
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Alexander McLeod b.10/05/1871 Dundee - Death?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 10 March 18 18:56 GMT (UK) »
There are 2 death records for  the years you mentioned which might be worth checking
Alexander Macleod age 24 death 1897 Anderston
Alexander McLeod  age 26 death 1899 Ayr

Rosie

Offline youngones82

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 26
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Alexander McLeod b.10/05/1871 Dundee - Death?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 10 March 18 19:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi Rosie,

Yep, already checked them both and neither are the right Alexander unfortunately.

The first was an Engine Fitter's apprentice, son of John MacLeod and Agnes Shaw. The second was a Fisherman or Seaman, son of Alexander McLeod and Georgina Stewart. Both were single.

Thanks for checking :)

Offline snowolf

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 385
    • View Profile
Re: Alexander McLeod b.10/05/1871 Dundee - Death?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 11 March 18 07:24 GMT (UK) »
Hello,
do you have an address for Alexander at time of his sons birth ?
and  what was his occupation ?
cheers,
Snowolf
"Durward"... (logie-pert, Dundee, Scotland,& Sydney ,Australia ,New Hampshire , U.S.A ).  "Johnston"..(Logie-pert, "Smith".."Arbuthnott/ monifieth/Montrose/laurencekirk , Scotland) "Kennedy"..(Dundee,Comrie) Scotland  & Australia. "Marshall"..(alloa, Clackmannanshire , Scotland). 
" Myles".. ( Scone, Perthshire , Scotland).
"Edward".. (Kincardneshire ,Dundee,Scotland),  Taylor..(Garvock,Kincardineshire,Scotland) , "Young"..(Kincardineshire),Scotland.
"Robertson"..Perthshire ,Scotland)


Offline rosie17

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 10,089
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Alexander McLeod b.10/05/1871 Dundee - Death?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 11 March 18 08:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Rosie,

Yep, already checked them both and neither are the right Alexander unfortunately.

The first was an Engine Fitter's apprentice, son of John MacLeod and Agnes Shaw. The second was a Fisherman or Seaman, son of Alexander McLeod and Georgina Stewart. Both were single.

Thanks for checking :)

That's a pity not seeing anything so far with immigration records ..what was his occupation ?

And Welcome to Rootschat  :)

Rosie

Offline youngones82

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 26
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Alexander McLeod b.10/05/1871 Dundee - Death?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 11 March 18 21:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi Rosie and Snowolf,

Looks like he had various jobs in the Jute mills. On the 1891 census he was a 'Calendar Worker' , at the time of Daniel's birth he was a 'Jute Mill Overseer'. However the record of his wife's death has him as a 'Dairyman'.

When Daniel was born they lived at 7 Forest Park Road, Dundee. When his wife remarried she lived at 3 Forest Park Road, Dundee.

Offline wivenhoe

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,554
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Alexander McLeod b.10/05/1871 Dundee - Death?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 11 March 18 22:09 GMT (UK) »
Am I reading this correctly?

".. However the record of his wife's death has him as a 'Dairyman'."

Where and when did Margaret die........and a record (death certificate?) that gave the occupation of her first husband?

Offline snowolf

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 385
    • View Profile
Re: Alexander McLeod b.10/05/1871 Dundee - Death?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 12 March 18 08:35 GMT (UK) »
Hello youngones82,
Seems to be a bit of a mystery ,
looking at post office directories there is an ALEXANDER MCLEOD from 1884  up to 1896  ,
occupation = "Mill Overseer" living at 43 Princes Street.
Then from 1896  up to 1900 he is still a "Mill Overseer" but now living at 54 Princes Street .
       
           this is the mystery bit ...he seems to have died in 1901 (St Peters area)
they have him listed as age 54,which would make him born in 1847,which doesn't come in with your Alexander been born in 1871.
    But he is the only one i can see listed as mill overseer.
Also can't find him listed in Forest Park Road.

you mention about the record on his wife's death record? but didnt she re-marry after Alex's death ? or do you mean he is mentioned on HER death certifictae as husband number 1?
where is your Alexander living in the 1891 cencus ?
cheers
snowolf  ;D
"Durward"... (logie-pert, Dundee, Scotland,& Sydney ,Australia ,New Hampshire , U.S.A ).  "Johnston"..(Logie-pert, "Smith".."Arbuthnott/ monifieth/Montrose/laurencekirk , Scotland) "Kennedy"..(Dundee,Comrie) Scotland  & Australia. "Marshall"..(alloa, Clackmannanshire , Scotland). 
" Myles".. ( Scone, Perthshire , Scotland).
"Edward".. (Kincardneshire ,Dundee,Scotland),  Taylor..(Garvock,Kincardineshire,Scotland) , "Young"..(Kincardineshire),Scotland.
"Robertson"..Perthshire ,Scotland)

Offline rosie17

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 10,089
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Alexander McLeod b.10/05/1871 Dundee - Death?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 12 March 18 10:16 GMT (UK) »
This seems to be Alexander McLeod on the 1891 census

Address 3,John Street ST Mary Dundee
Daniel McLeod age 63( shoemaker )
Allison McLeod age 61
Alexander McLeod age 19 son  ( calender worker )

Jessie McLeod age 15 daughter
Daniel McLeod age 8 grandson

1895 Alexander McLeod address on Valuation Rolls is 7,Forest Park Road Dundee

Is this the marriage Margaret Thomson/McLeod 1899 St Peter Dundee to David Baxter

Would this be the family on the 1901 census address 21.Winton Terrace Shettleston Glasgow ?
David Baxter age 34 b Dundee ( coal miner )
Margaret Baxter age 28 b Dundee
Alexander Baxter age 7 b Dundee
Joseph Baxter age 8 b Dundee
Daniel Baxter age 3 b Dundee
Helen Baxter age 2 months b   Shettleston

Rosie