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...at a hunting camp - help with photo please Norman and Wilfred
« on: Saturday 10 March 18 21:32 GMT (UK) »
This photocopy was sent to me many years ago simply entitled, "Some Donkersleys at a hunting camp".  The gent on the far right was born in 1851 and the man next to him in 1880 which might help with dating.  It's a photocopy so not brilliant quality.  I'd like to know what they were hunting and why they had a cage/basket and trugs, and what looks like a shotgun.  They lived in the West Riding of Yorkshire.  And at "a camp"?  I'm struggling with this one!  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Re: ...at a hunting camp - help with photo please Norman and Wilfred
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 11 March 18 09:45 GMT (UK) »
The trugs could contain a picnic lunch that has been brought to them. It's not clear, but they do look as though they may be eating something .

The cage could be a ferret hutch, although it seems rather over-sized for that.

Mike

Edit - rather than eating, they may be filling and smoking pipes.

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Re: ...at a hunting camp - help with photo please Norman and Wilfred
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 11 March 18 15:40 GMT (UK) »
Eel hunting?  Although you probably wouldn't need a shotgun for that. 
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Re: ...at a hunting camp - help with photo please Norman and Wilfred
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 11 March 18 16:24 GMT (UK) »
It could possibly be a "trap" or cage from which to release live pigeons for shooting - the forerunner of the clay pigeon trap.


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Re: ...at a hunting camp - help with photo please Norman and Wilfred
« Reply #4 on: Monday 12 March 18 09:02 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your thoughts. I've had this photo on another forum and the thought there is that I may be over thinking this! It could be that the men were just posing in the yard of the place they were staying, the trugs were for their lunch and the basket is one a broody chicken would use.  I've requested the original photo from the person who sent me this but no luck. I hadn't noticed they were filling pipes.
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Re: ...at a hunting camp - help with photo please Norman and Wilfred
« Reply #5 on: Monday 12 March 18 10:35 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your thoughts. I've had this photo on another forum and the thought there is that I may be over thinking this! It could be that the men were just posing in the yard of the place they were staying, the trugs were for their lunch and the basket is one a broody chicken would use.  I've requested the original photo from the person who sent me this but no luck. I hadn't noticed they were filling pipes.
They could equally be on a gamekeeper's rearing field, which would explain the shotgun. Pheasant eggs were traditionally hatched under broody hens.

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Re: ...at a hunting camp - help with photo please Norman and Wilfred
« Reply #6 on: Monday 12 March 18 10:45 GMT (UK) »
Good morning,

I'm no expert but given the birth dates this must be around 1900/1905. Need one of the experts to confirm.

They are Sussex trugs, made at that time mostly in Herstmonceux. Not sure how widespread their sales would have been at that time but I doubt much beyond Sussex. Other areas had their own designs of trugs and baskets.

As Claire said, broody hutches for hens, not for laying eggs as claimed by "an expert" on TV last night so they could be collected.

I doubt that even 5 Yorkshiremen would need 3 trugs to carry their lunch. They would be a little cumbersome for that, they would most likely have had a packed lunch in a shoulder bag or poachers pocket.

Given the evidence of hens in the vicinity, possibly after a troublesome fox or two.

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Re: ...at a hunting camp - help with photo please Norman and Wilfred
« Reply #7 on: Monday 12 March 18 10:52 GMT (UK) »
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I doubt that even 5 Yorkshiremen would need 3 trugs to carry their lunch. They would be a little cumbersome for that, they would most likely have had a packed lunch in a shoulder bag or poachers pocket.

Agreed - that's why I wonder whether they've had lunch brought out to them at the rearing field, or chicken field, whichever it is.

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Re: ...at a hunting camp - help with photo please Norman and Wilfred
« Reply #8 on: Monday 12 March 18 10:54 GMT (UK) »
Back again,

Mike could be right on with pheasant rearing. There is a stack of broody hutches behind them so maybe out to collect any eggs as well.

John915

PS, still shouldn't need 3 trugs for lunch though Mike.
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