James Masterson's death

[Milliepede]

Sorry I'm confusing you as well as myself! 

I'm talking about the original James the one whose death you are looking for, the one married to Sarah Ann Bruce. 

The marriages are on ancestry website.  They all have father James a dyer and all born close enough to be siblings - maybe. 

Certainly the one with witnesses Sarah Ann Masterson and Thomas Bruce have to mean something! 

[Mabel Bagshawe]

1861? Smith St, Deansgate

Thomas Cartwright    82 - beamer in cotton factory, b Bolton
Phenix Masterson    26 - grandson, finisher in dye house  [Felix - but believe this may be his grandfather in law, given Elizabeth's maiden name]
Elizabeth Masterson    25
Agnes Masterson    5
Mary Ann Masterson    3
James Masterson    6/12
John Oddy    62 - lodger


Foster St, Hulme. All b Manchester
George Frederick Deane    29
Catherine Deane    27
James M Deane    2
Charles Deane    1/12
Thomas Deane    1/12

[Milliepede]

That looks right well done Mabel.

I can't find births for any of the Dean/Deane children to cross check maiden name. 

[Milliepede]

1871 took a bit of finding for Catherine down as K Dean

George Dean 41
K 37
Charles 10
Thomas 10
John Robt 4
Joseph Hy 4 months
Henry Owen 24 boarder
Robt Cartwright 23 boarder

[Mabel Bagshawe]

James M is James Masterson - not doing v well on the registrations, but have some baptisms and burials

Samuel Dean    buried 10 Jan 1858 aged 11 months, Died 6 Jan, teething.    Hulme, St George, Parents George & Catherine. Fleet St, [RC noted at side of entry]     
[birth reg mmn Masterson can be found]

George Frederick Dean    buried 18 Aug 1861, died 14 August aged 2 y 7m, convulsions.    Hulme, St George, parents George &
Catherine, Foster St

Baptisms
James Masterson Dean            13 Mar 1859    Hulme, St George    - mmn Masterson, Foster St, Father a carter, Married at Cathc, 1856

Twins - same birth date given, Feb 16 1861
Charles Marginson Dean    28 Apr 1861    Manchester, St Peter    - father George, a carter
Thomas Dean                     28 Apr 1861    Manchester, St Peter    

Another George Frederick is b 1883 1863, mmn Masterson, CHorlton district,  William Henry in 1868 and Joseph Henry 1871

[heywood]

Hello,

Marriage
1st November 1827   1 Nov 1827, Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
James Masterson, Widower, Dyer and    Susannah Masterson

Marriage
23rd May 1839. Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Susannah Masterson, widow - Father Bryan Masterson
William Owens, father Joseph Owen

1851 2221 pg 9. (Damaged census)


William Owen 30 yrs Dyer Journeyman
Susannah Owen   40 yrs
Catherine Owen   19 yrs
Foler Owen 16 yrs. Dyer apprentice
Jane Owen 11 yrs
Henry Owen   
Thomas Owen   
Charlotte Owen   2 yrs

‘Foler’ could be Felix.

Heywood

[heywood]

If you search censuses for J M born abt 1830, Manchester there are just a few.
They are Patients, Prisoners, Convicts.

There is one interesting one
West Yorkshire County Lunatic Asylum

1871 4622/62/23

J M 39 yrs married Dyer  b Manchester

It could be anyone with initials J M but I have been wondering about it.

Heywood

[heywood]

Here is the Owen/s family in 1841 transcribed as Ewens

1841 570/32/14
Rowes  Street

William Ewens   20 yrs Dyer b Ireland
Susanna Ewens   20 yrs b Ireland
Patrick Ewens 15 yrs Cotton Factory b Ireland
James Ewens 10 yrs Dyer b in county
Felix Ewens 5 yrs born in county
Jane Ewens 1 yr born in county

William Owens and Susannah Masterson lived in Rowe Street on marriage.

[heywood]

This looks like James and Susannah Masterson

Catholic records Manchester- search each name separately but just an index

http://www.mlfhs.org.uk/data/catholic_search.php

James Masterson baptised St Chad’s - 1828   
James Masterson Father of James Masterson

James Masterson father of Felix  baptised St Chad’s 1835
Felix baptised 1835
 John MASTERSON  1837 at Manchester, St. Chad
Father James

Susannah Masterson mother of James Masterson baptised at  St Chad's 1828

Susannah Masterson mother of Charlotte Owen baptised St Wilfred’s Hulme 1848

There are other Masterson baptisms which may be the children of your James and also Dean baptisms.