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1889 diary p15 revisited
« on: Sunday 11 March 18 21:20 GMT (UK) »
A month ago I posted here http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=787146.0 a text that included this extract.

'needs”. with L & D called at Brights & had tea and after
few mins Rays rather jolly girls were there & a most
extraordinary spinster named  “Wooly”  of a vinegary cast
of features & a most vindictive way of anathemising those'

Help by many decoded all but the xxxxx I repost it in the hope that another reading might bring inspiration. Can you help?

the red and bold text is thanks to help here.

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Re: 1889 diary p15 revisted
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 11 March 18 21:25 GMT (UK) »
Suggest the first line is 'and' - it makes sense anyway.  Even though it doesn't look at all like the next 'and'  maybe it is a long hand 'and'  ;)

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Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
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Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: 1889 diary p15 revisted
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 11 March 18 21:29 GMT (UK) »
The xxxxx could be angry but not sure. It looks as if the first letter has been over written.

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Re: 1889 diary p15 revisted
« Reply #3 on: Monday 12 March 18 11:47 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if the cast of features is vinegary. The first two letters are similar to the start of vindictive, except that (if I'm right) the bottom of the 'v' has an accidental loop.

We also know from extraordinary in the same line that the writer can merge '-ary' into a single squiggle, such as there seems to be here.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: 1889 diary p15 revisted
« Reply #4 on: Monday 12 March 18 11:59 GMT (UK) »
We had vinegary in another extract (line 2 in the link below) ...

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=787330.msg6427389#msg6426997

... and it does look similar.

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Re: 1889 diary p15 revisted
« Reply #5 on: Monday 12 March 18 13:32 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Gadget on Sunday 11 March 18 21:29 GMT (UK)
It looks as if the first letter has been over written.
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I agree. The next word is "cast" - it could be that he started to write the "c" and then corrected himself. The more I look at it, the more I see vinegary (vinagry/vinegry), too...

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Re: 1889 diary p15 revisted
« Reply #6 on: Monday 12 March 18 13:33 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Bookbox on Monday 12 March 18 11:59 GMT (UK)
We had vinegary in another extract (line 2 in the link below) ...

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=787330.msg6427389#msg6426997

... and it does look similar.

Well remembered - I'd totally forgotten that. So we now also know that it's a word he used.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: 1889 diary p15 revisted
« Reply #7 on: Monday 12 March 18 13:40 GMT (UK) »
I'd not seen the previous snip of vineg(a)ry but it certainly looks like it - even more abbreviated here.


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Re: 1889 diary p15 revisted
« Reply #8 on: Monday 12 March 18 15:52 GMT (UK) »
Yes of course, Vinegary!
Thanks sooo much. I am sorry that despite the other example I had not learnt from it.

That cleared up then. It's all looking good.

Chuffed,

Deskman



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