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My Paternam GGF's name is Van Comberg.  He was born in Belgium in 1821. His wife is Melania (no last name).  Could this be them?  Can you help with the translation?


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Re: Anybody Know "Old German"? You May Help Me Break My Paternal GGF Wall!
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 11 March 18 23:53 GMT (UK) »
It is not old German,it is Flemish.
Dated 1852, the ladies` name was Melania de Prins.
give me a bit of time and I`ll get the gist at least.Viktoria.

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Re: Anybody Know "Old German"? You May Help Me Break My Paternal GGF Wall!
« Reply #2 on: Monday 12 March 18 01:08 GMT (UK) »
The writing is a bit difficult and also Flemish spelling altered after this date.
This is what I can see so far :-
The year 1852 in the month of February ,at the latter end and a Sunday---Eduard van Roie---the parish of Bornhem,the parish of Mechelen(Malines)Antwerp.-----at eleven before midday-------
of marriage, Jacobus van Cauwenbergh, 30 years ,born and living-------of age and the son of
Johannes Nicholas van Cauwenbergh and Johanna Dorothea (Kowers)of Bornhem and----- Maria 
Anastassia Gillis,a hand worker in silk.--
Perhaps there is something to help you. I`ll try again tomorrow. V.

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Re: Anybody Know "Old German"? You May Help Me Break My Paternal GGF Wall!
« Reply #3 on: Monday 12 March 18 11:57 GMT (UK) »
The date was February 8th,it says "achterste"which can mean eighth or behind,the hindmost.
It must be a marriage contract or declaration that the banns have been read for the first time.
Melania was 27 years, the youngest daughter of  Paulus de Prins and Maria ( I think Anastassia)
Gillis  also a silk   worker.Married women in Belgium keep their maiden names.

My son could sort it out but is away for work at the moment but I hope there is something of use to you.
Is it possible the name was altered slightly ? it is definitely Van Cauwenbergh.
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Re: Anybody Know "Old German"? You May Help Me Break My Paternal GGF Wall!
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 13 March 18 01:02 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Viktoria...I've seen the name Van Comberg spelled many different ways, sometimes even without the Van.  This seems to fit in so many ways. I'm going to dig into this deeper. I hope you will help if I find any other Flemish documents. This is my first ancestor from Belgium that I will be researching.  Thanks again.

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Re: Anybody Know "Old German"? You May Help Me Break My Paternal GGF Wall!
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 March 18 03:13 GMT (UK) »
Please help....Here is one more document to help validate Melanie DePrins as my ancestor. I wish I had the skills to translate this myself.

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Re: Anybody Know "Old German"? You May Help Me Break My Paternal GGF Wall!
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 March 18 20:03 GMT (UK) »
I`ll get on to it,it is a birth cert for Melania.
Been busy today,unexpected visitors etcbut I will get back to you ASAP. Viktoria.

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Re: Anybody Know "Old German"? You May Help Me Break My Paternal GGF Wall!
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 13 March 18 20:17 GMT (UK) »
Viktoria...Thanks...You've got me excited about the results!

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Re: Anybody Know "Old German"? You May Help Me Break My Paternal GGF Wall!
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 13 March 18 22:35 GMT (UK) »
Viktoria...One more question...If Jacob Van Comberg (van Cauwenbergh) married Melania Deprins, according to Belgian custom, would their son have the last name of van Cauwenbergh or Deprins?  I believe this document is a birth/christening for Aloysius Deprins.  In my tree, I have Jacob Van Comberg and Melania having a son Aloysius who was born in Belgium. Could this be him?