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Jones-Williams marriage in Buildwas 1820?
« on: Tuesday 13 March 18 15:33 GMT (UK) »
Hello Rootschatters,
I have tracked my husband's family back to this marriage in Shropshire. But finding their antecedents is a problem, not surprising looking for Joneses and Williamses when that close to Wales!
I am hopeful that someone, with more resources than me, might be able to take a closer look at the marriage details and perhaps find further details - such as the names of the couples parents or where they came from. I would be most grateful for any pointers. The details I have are:

Marriage of John Jones to Frances Williams; Buildwas Shropshire; 29 May 1820
Approximate dates of birth from 1841/51 census. John Jones 1790-91; Frances Williams 1792-96
John Jones may have been born in Whitehaven Herefordshire (1851 census).
Many thanks for any clues you can offer.
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Re: Jones-Williams marriage in Buildwas 1820?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 13 March 18 15:45 GMT (UK) »
The only details given are what you already have. Plus he was a bachelor, she was a spinster and the witnesses were William Higgins and Sarah Millichap.

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Re: Jones-Williams marriage in Buildwas 1820?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 13 March 18 17:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi if he is the widowed John Jones 61 with children Alfred 21 Frederick 17 and Fanny 15 in Aston, nr Birmingham in 1851 census, as I had never heard of a Whitehaven in Herefordshire I then looked at original, it looks to be Whitchurch which is in Shropshire or Herefordshire
Census ref HO107/2061/292/23

In 1861 aged 71 with son Frederick 27 in Aston he is shown as b Whit(e)church Herefordshire
Census ref RG09/2178/76/10
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Re: Jones-Williams marriage in Buildwas 1820?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 13 March 18 18:41 GMT (UK) »
From the Forest of Dean site

Baptism 24 May 1790 Whitchurch, Herefordshire
John Jones son of Thomas and Mary

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Re: Jones-Williams marriage in Buildwas 1820?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 13 March 18 18:54 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much to Emeltom and keyboard86, this is brilliant information. I also checked for Whitehaven Herefordshire, and found none. However there is a tiny village/hamlet called Whitehaven just south of Oswestry which is of course Shropshire - more suited for a Buildwas marriage.
However, Emeltom's suggestion for John Jones' birth in Whitchurch looks like a great hint - especially when linked with K86's confirmation of 'Whitchurch' rather than Whitehaven.
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Re: Jones-Williams marriage in Buildwas 1820?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 March 18 19:02 GMT (UK) »
I really hate to do this to you but I think I may have found a marriage for Thomas Jones and Mary

4 May 1787 Monmouth St Mary
Thomas Jones Residence Whitchurch, Herefordshire
Mary Williams Residence Monmouth.
Witnesses Mary Roberts, Thomas Philips

Thomas and Mary also had the following children in Whitchurch
William 1787
Thomas 1789
Edward 1792
Marianne 1794

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Re: Jones-Williams marriage in Buildwas 1820?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 March 18 19:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi and thank you, the death of John is possibly:-

John Jones Sept qtr 1866 Birmingham 6d 79 aged 76
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 ;) Looks a good possible for his parents mariage!
Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

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Re: Jones-Williams marriage in Buildwas 1820?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 March 18 21:17 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again, the two of you. This is all new and plausible information, and I'm looking forward to following up on these leads.
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Re: Jones-Williams marriage in Buildwas 1820?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 15 March 18 09:15 GMT (UK) »
John's sister Marianne married in Whitchurch 4 September 1817 to a Samuel George Haywood from Warwickshire and they ended up living in Birmingham as well. Samuel goes under the name George and Marianne has become Mary Ann and they can be found in both the 1841 and 1851 Censuses

HO107/1141/7/F45/p6

HO107/2062/F134/p25

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