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Re: George Herbert Williams
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 13 March 18 22:35 GMT (UK) »
1891 Census
RG12/407/112/13
Brighton Terrace Lambeth
George E Williams, Hd, 35 b.1856, Gloucestershire, Hotel servant
Mary J, 35 b.1856,
Edith, 10 b.1881, Brixton
Elizabeth, 9 b.1882
Alfred,7 b.1884, Brixton
Edward, 5 b.1886, Brixton
Hannah, 3 b.1888, Brixton
George, 2 b.1889, Brixton
Charles A H Howard, 28 b.1863, Gloucestershire, Hotel Servant

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Re: George Herbert Williams
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 13 March 18 22:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi does the tree give any indication of what became of his mother Emily?

As I believe that possibly Rachel was a new wife of John Moreman, and that Emily was b c 1831 Cirencester, and in 1851 is a General Servant in a very "Posh" household?!
Census ref HO1071961/239/2
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Re: George Herbert Williams
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 13 March 18 22:51 GMT (UK) »
By 1871 Emily (37 b Cirencester) is the wife of John Howard (40 b Nantwich) in Painswick.

Their household includes “nephew” George Williams, 15 b Tetbury as well as a (genuine) niece, Julia Moreman, 19 b Cirencester.

1871 ref: RG10/2630/64/4.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: George Herbert Williams
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 13 March 18 22:53 GMT (UK) »
Someone else has researched the family here

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=279449.0
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Re: George Herbert Williams
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 13 March 18 23:15 GMT (UK) »
Wow that’s interesting - I wonder who. Should I take it as gospel?

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Re: George Herbert Williams
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 13 March 18 23:23 GMT (UK) »
Wow that’s interesting - I wonder who. Should I take it as gospel?

Never ever take someone else’s research as gospel.  Not unless they take you through the documents step by step, anyway, demonstrating their sources and the inferences drawn from them.  It’s useful to give you leads for your own investigations though, with help here if you want it.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: George Herbert Williams
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 13 March 18 23:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi does the tree give any indication of what became of his mother Emily?

As I believe that possibly Rachel was a new wife of John Moreman, and that Emily was b c 1831 Cirencester, and in 1851 is a General Servant in a very "Posh" household?!
Census ref HO1071961/239/2
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Posh household - yes I suppose it is! She’s one of several servants in the household of (Captain) George H. Mason, Governor of the County Jail in Gloucester
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: George Herbert Williams
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 13 March 18 23:35 GMT (UK) »
 ;D So when and if, was her father John a "Coachman" to Earl Bathurst?
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Re: George Herbert Williams
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 13 March 18 23:48 GMT (UK) »
Wow that’s interesting - I wonder who. Should I take it as gospel?

The person in the other thread shares your grandfather

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=258986.
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