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John & Ellen Guarnieri (Manchester)
« on: Wednesday 14 March 18 17:34 GMT (UK) »
Would anyone be able to help me find the death's of the above?

Here they are in 1881

Name:   John Guinari
Age:   49
Where born:   (F), Italy
Street address:   6 Chapel Court
Marital Status:   Married
Occupation:   Street Musician
Registration district:   Manchester
Sub registration district:   Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel:   5
Piece:   3978
Folio:   75
Page Number:   22

Ellen Guinari   36
Rosina Guinari   9
Antonio Guinari   7
(not transcribed)   
Jane Green   26
James Green   2

This is the first and last census return i find them on. I cannot find a marriage for them either.

Ellen is from London according to the census and John is from Italy. They had 4 children that I can find, Ellen's maiden name is given as SMITH yet a family member informed me the name was ROCCO.

Theresa Angiolina Guarnieri 1868 - 1870
Rosina Guarnieri 1872 - 1934
Antonio Guarnieri 1873 - 1948
Dominic Guarnieri 1875 - 1876

Thank you!

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Re: John & Ellen Guarnieri (Manchester)
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 14 March 18 17:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi the family in 1891 census transcribed as GOANARY?
Census ref RG12/3239/40/18 a possible?
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Re: John & Ellen Guarnieri (Manchester)
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 14 March 18 18:00 GMT (UK) »
Hello,
Is it just John and Ellen you are after? I think I have Antonio in later censuses.

However, this is perhaps Ellenís death.

June quarter 1896 Manchester vol 8d pg 151
Ellen Guananaria 58 yrs

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Re: John & Ellen Guarnieri (Manchester)
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 14 March 18 18:02 GMT (UK) »
John?

John Guarneri 61 yrs
March quarter 1894 Manchester vol 8d pg 135
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Re: John & Ellen Guarnieri (Manchester)
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 14 March 18 18:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi both

Keyboard86 - I can't seem to find that 1891 census you have found, would you be able to link me to it?

Heywood - Thank you for those death records, I feel like I have tried lots of different variations of names but couldn't find any records.

I have some records for Antonio - 1881, 1911 record, and death record. But not much else.

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Re: John & Ellen Guarnieri (Manchester)
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 14 March 18 18:11 GMT (UK) »
Marriage

June 30th 1868 Manchester Cathedral

Johannes Gavaneri 39 yrs bachelor Organ player  father Dominii Gavaneri, gardener
Ellen Rock, 34 yrs, widow.  Father Alexander Smith, Labourer.

Witnesses Vincent and Elizabeth Garibatti
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Re: John & Ellen Guarnieri (Manchester)
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 14 March 18 18:14 GMT (UK) »
How have you found that???  :o :o :o

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Re: John & Ellen Guarnieri (Manchester)
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 March 18 18:22 GMT (UK) »
Free BMD index

June quarter 1868 Manchester vol 8d pg 468
Johannes Gavaneri and Ellen Rock

Lancashire BMD http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php
gives venue of marriage and then I transcribed it from Ancestry
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Re: John & Ellen Guarnieri (Manchester)
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 14 March 18 18:29 GMT (UK) »
 :)  Just search for an Antony Goanary b 1874 Manchester in 1891.
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