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Re: St George's Church, Edworth
« Reply #54 on: Wednesday 28 March 18 16:34 BST (UK) »
From Edworth Parish records - Burials

4 Mar 1814 Sarah Kidman age 55
6 Mar 1821 James Kidman age nearly 5 months
* baptised 15/10/1820 Edworth, son of James & Elizabeth Kidman, farmer
7 Aug 1822 James Kidman age 59 abode Hitchin
29 Dec 1832 Ann/e Kidman age 17
* baptised 16/7/1815 Streatley, daughter of Thomas & Mary Kidman, farmer of Sharpehoe   
15 Feb 1834 Mary Kidman age 7 months
* baptised 29/12/1833 Edworth, daughter of Thomas & Elenor Kidman, labourer
19 Oct 1836 James Kidman 45
26 Jan 1839 William Kidman age 6 weeks
* baptised Edworth 15/12/1838 son of George & Edith Kidman
27 Jan 1854 Elizabeth Kidman age 61 abode Dunton
22 Aug 1856 Thomas Kidman age 24
4 Sept 1857 Thomas Henry Kidman age 7 mnths abode Millo (Dunton)
14 Jan 1858 Isabel Edith Kidman age 23
10 Dec 1860 John Kidman age 65 abode Girtford nr Sandy
1 Apr 1864 James Kidman age 35
23 May 1864 Elizabeth Kidman Kidman age 37 abode Dunton
7 Sept 1864 George Kidman age 66
30 Jan 1868 William Kidman age 38 abode Caldecote, Northill
16 Apr 1874 Emma Kidman age 48
20 Nov 1874 Sarah Kidman age 79 abode Everton
6 May 1877 Edith Kidman age 77
2 Sept 1882 George Kidman age 57 abode Millow, Dunton
21 Mar 1883 Edward Kidman age 55 abode Shefford
9 Apr 1920 James Julian Kidman age 83 abode Brownings Farm, Castle Camp, Cambs
8 Aug 1930 Louisa Kidman age 83 abode Collingham
25 Jan 1951 Clara Kidman age 94 abode 37 Hillcroft, Ealing W5

 
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Allen - Hunts, Hemingford Abbotts
Clement - Croydon
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Re: St George's Church, Edworth
« Reply #55 on: Wednesday 28 March 18 18:16 BST (UK) »
From Edworth Parish records - Burials
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6 May 1877 Edith Kidman age 77
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John, would you mind checking your notes for this record? I think this is likely the wife of George Kidman (snr), for which newspaper items give her death date as 1st May 1878. The (likely) death registration is 1878 Q2 Biggleswade.


Also, it's curious that Edith isn't amongst the Beds FHS MIs, nor did I see her grave. Maybe her gravestone is one of the illegible ones; it seems unlikely that her grave wasn't marked.
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Re: St George's Church, Edworth
« Reply #56 on: Thursday 29 March 18 07:57 BST (UK) »
From Edworth Parish records - Burials
6 May 1877 Edith Kidman age 77

John, would you mind checking your notes for this record? I think this is likely the wife of George Kidman (snr), for which newspaper items give her death date as 1st May 1878. The (likely) death registration is 1878 Q2 Biggleswade.

Yes most likely is 1878 as you say her death date in the paper & probate calendar says 1 May 1878.
The burial register has 9 entries per page & each line only shows the day & month, you have to get the year from top of page, or spot it when it changes.
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Allen - Hunts, Hemingford Abbotts
Clement - Croydon
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Re: St George's Church, Edworth
« Reply #57 on: Thursday 29 March 18 08:40 BST (UK) »
More from the archives....

Dunton marriage: 9 Dec 1822 George Kidman bachelor of Hitchin, Herts to Edith Waters spinster of this parish, by licence....witnesses Thomas Waters & Elizabeth Butterfield

Barton le Clay baptisms children of George & Edith Kidman, farmer of Barton
22 Mar 1824 George
17 Nov 1825 Emma
28 Oct 1827 Mary Ann
17 Apr 1829 (Good Friday) James
13 Jan 1831 Edith  ** buried at 3 days old on 17 Jan 1831
20 Apr 1832 Thomas
5 Feb 1834 Isabel Edith
** Registered 12 Oct 1838 ... as not brought into church after being baptised at Hill Farm

Edworth baptisms children of George & Edith Kidman, farmer of Edworth
6 Aug 1837 Berthia
15 Dec 1838 William  ** buried aged 6 weeks on 26 Jan 1839
   
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Re: St George's Church, Edworth
« Reply #58 on: Friday 13 April 18 11:30 BST (UK) »
Beds Archives have the cemetery records....  suggest you contact them for a look up

Have had a reply from the Bedfordshire Archives  and they can confirm that Bethia Doane (listed as Bithia) was buried at the Bedford Cemetery on the 10th April 1874.

Since this, I have received information from FOBC with photographs of her headstone in the Bedford Cemetery. She was living  at St Cuthberts Street, St Cuthberts, Bedford.
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Re: St George's Church, Edworth
« Reply #59 on: Friday 13 April 18 12:25 BST (UK) »
Beds Archives have the cemetery records....  suggest you contact them for a look up

Have had a reply from the Bedfordshire Archives  and they can confirm that Bethia Doane (listed as Bithia) was buried at the Bedford Cemetery on the 10th April 1874.

Since this, I have received information from FOBC with photographs of her headstone in the Bedford Cemetery. She was living  at St Cuthberts Street, St Cuthberts, Bedford.

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Re: St George's Church, Edworth
« Reply #60 on: Friday 13 April 18 12:29 BST (UK) »
Beds Archives have the cemetery records....  suggest you contact them for a look up

Have had a reply from the Bedfordshire Archives  and they can confirm that Bethia Doane (listed as Bithia) was buried at the Bedford Cemetery on the 10th April 1874.

Since this, I have received information from FOBC with photographs of her headstone in the Bedford Cemetery. She was living  at St Cuthberts Street, St Cuthberts, Bedford.

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Re: St George's Church, Edworth
« Reply #61 on: Sunday 29 July 18 14:38 BST (UK) »
You might have already seen this but a newspaper item refers to James being buried in the family grave, so it's a possibility.


Biggleswade Chronicle
09 Apr 1920

Dunton
Death of Mr J. J. Kidman
We regret to record the death of Mr. James Julian Kidman, formerly of Newton Grove Farm, Dunton, which took place at Castle Camps, Suffolk, on Tuesday, at the age of 72 years, and after an illness of about a year's duration. Deceased was born at Millow, Dunton, and resided in the parish for about 70 years, holding the office of Churchwarden, Chairman of the Parish Council, member of the Rural District Council, and Board of Guardians. Of his family, Mr. Hugh Kidman, Rose Villa, Sutton, Mr. P. Kidman, Sunderland, and Mrs. Carter, Eyeworth, remain in this district, and for them and other members of the family, much sympathy is felt. The remains are being brought to Edworth, Beds. To-day (Friday) for interment in the family grave in the Churchyard.


Biggleswade Chronicle
08 Aug 1930

Biggleswade
Death of Mrs Kidman
Her many friends in Biggleswade and district will learn with regret of the death of Mrs. Louise Kidman, who passed away at Collingham, Newark, on Tuesday. The deceased, who had attained the great age of 83 years, was the widow of the late Mr. J. J. Kidman, of Newton, Dunton. Her husband pre-deceased her by ten years. Deep sympathy is expressed with the family of four sons and four daughters in their bereavement. The members of the family are: Mr H. Kidman, of Clapham, Bedford; Mr P. C. Kidman, of Biggleswade; Mr J. Kidman, of Heybridge, Essex; Mr R. Kidman, of Bedford Park, London; Mrs Carter, of Offley, Hitchin; Mrs Thompson, of Sunderland Farm, Biggleswade; Mrs Tice, of Feltham, Middlesex; and Mrs Day, of Collingham, Newark. The funeral will take place at Edworth Church at 2.30 p.m. to-day (Friday).

Looking back on this kindly posted by cuffie81 which gives me James Julian & Louisa Kidman's four sons & four alive daughters in 1930.

James and Louisa had ten children and hoping to find their marriages and deaths. Some of them used their middle name. Still looking for information on four of them.

Coleman Hugh KIDMAN  b. August 9th. 1873 He was married to Annie Mira Close 1894
Percy Charles KIDMAN b.June 30th. 1875  ( I have all Percy's information -my Grandfather)
Ellen Elizabeth KIDMAN  b.May 14th. 1877 ( no other information )
Mary Louise KIDMAN b.  March 5th. 1879   ( no other information)
Mabel KIDMAN  b.  May 20TH. 1880  ( no other information)
Michaelmas George KIDMAN b. October  11th. 1881  Died in India 1918.
Edith Isabella KIDMAN b. October 31st. 1883  (no other information)
Joseph KIDMAN b.December 31st. 1886  Wounded while in France.
Thomas Randolf KIDMAN  b. January 11th.1889 (no other information)
Decima Omega KIDMAN  b. July 31st. 1892. She married J. Harold Thompson Biggleswade. Dec 1916 - she died 21st Aug 1979. Her husband died 28th. June 1970.

Any information on the above would be very much appreciated.

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Re: St George's Church, Edworth
« Reply #62 on: Sunday 29 July 18 22:04 BST (UK) »
I've sent some info to cupcake via PM earlier today but it probably makes more sense to do it on the forum, in case it's of use to others in future.

Looking through various records I think we have the following for the children of James and Lousia.

Children:
Coleman Hugh (1873 - 1951; age 78); m. 1894 Annie Mira Mary Close (1872 - 1944; age 72)
Percy Charles (1875 - 1944; age 69); m. 1904 Gertrude Partridge (1868 - 1953; age 85)
Ellen Elizabeth (1877 - 1937; age 59); m. 1897 Walter Carter (1869 - 1962; age 93)
Mary Louise (1879 - 1960; age 81); m. 1911 Harry Wentworth Tice (1867 - 1950; age 82)
Mabel Topsy (1880 - 1962; age 81); m. 1907 Leopold Henry Day (1879 - 1938; age 59)
Michaelmas George (1881 - 1918; age 37)
Edith Isabella (1883 - 1888; age 4)
Joseph (1886 - 1970; age 83); m. 1925 Elsie Mary Harding (1900 - 1981; age 80)
Thomas Randolph (1889 - 1964; age 74); m. 1912 Dorothy Jane Goddard (1890 - 1973; age 82)
Decima Omega (1892 - 1979; age 87); m. 1916 George Harold Thompson (1893 - 1970; age 76)


GRO BMD references:
1873 Q3  Birth - Coleman Hugh Kidman (mmn: Crouch); Biggleswade; 03b; 356
1894 Q3  Marriage - Coleman Hugh Kidman & Annie Mira M Close; Pancras; 01b; 20
1944 Q4  Death - Annie Mira Mary Kidman; age 72 (born c1872); Hastings; 02b; 4
1951 Q1  Death - Coleman Hugh Kidman; age 79 (born c1872); Northampton; 03b; 781

1877 Q2  Birth - Ellen Elizabeth Kidman (mmn: Crouch); Biggleswade; 03b; 385
1897 Q2  Marriage - Walter Carter & Ellen Elizabeth Kidman; Biggleswade; 03b; 797
1937 Q1  Death - Ellen Elizabeth Carter; age 59 (born c1878); Hitchin; 03a; 1414
1962 Q4  Death - Walter Carter; age 93 (born c1869); Biggleswade; 04a; 89

1867 Q4  Birth - Harry Wentworth Tice (mmn: Wentworth); Chertsey; 02a; 36; copy A
1879 Q2  Birth - Mary Louise Kidman (mmn: Crouch); Biggleswade; 03b; 367
1911 Q2  Marriage - Harry W Tice & Mary L Kidman; Biggleswade; 03b; 803
1950 Q3  Death - Harry Wentworth Tice; age 82 (born c1868); Middlesex South; 05f; 54
1960 Q1  Death - Mary L Tice; age 81 (born c1879); Middlesex South; 05f; 98

1879 Q4  Birth - Leopold Henry Day (mmn: Bonfield); Royston; 03a; 360
1880 Q3  Birth - Mabel Topsy Kidman (mmn: Crouch); Biggleswade; 03b; 352
1907 Q2  Marriage - Leopold Henry Day & Mabel Kidman; Huntingdon; 03b; 607
1939 Q1  Death - Leopold Henry Day; age 59 (born c1880); Lincoln; 07a; 611
1962 Q1  Death - Mabel Day; age 81 (born c1881); Lincoln; 03b; 394

1881 Q4  Birth - Michaelmas George Kidman (mmn: Crouch); Biggleswade; 03b; 344

1883 Q4  Birth - Edith Isabella Kidman (mmn: Crauch); Biggleswade; 03b; 351
1888 Q1  Death - Edith Isabella Kidman; age 4 (born c1884); Biggleswade; 03b; 247

1887 Q1  Birth - Joseph Kidman (mmn: Crouch); Biggleswade; 03b; 337
1925 Q3  Marriage - Joseph Kidman & Elsie M Harding; Linton; 03b; 1279
1970 Q3  Death - Joseph Kidman; born 31 Dec 1886; Maldon; 04a; 1758
1981 Q1  Death - Elsie Mary Kidman; born 09 Aug 1900; Chelmsford; 009; 2132

1889 Q1  Birth - Thomas Randolph Kidman (mmn: Crouch); Biggleswade; 03b; 348
1890 Q2  Birth - Dorothy Jane Goddard (mmn: William); Chippenham; 05a; 73
1912 Q3  Marriage - Thomas R Kidman & Dorothy J Goddard; Chippenham; 05a; 156
1964 Q1  Death - Thomas R Kidman; age 74 (born c1890); Hendon; 05e; 496
1973 Q1  Death - Dorothy Jane Kidman; born 17 May 1890; Chichester; 05h; 2210

1892 Q3  Birth - Decima Omega Kidman (mmn: Crouch); Biggleswade; 03b; 357
1916 Q4  Marriage - George H Thompson & Decima O Kidman; Biggleswade; 03b; 736
1970 Q2  Death - George Harold Thompson; born 16 Aug 1893; Bedford; 04a; 140
1979 Q3  Death - Decima Omega Thompson; born 03 Jul 1892; Bedford; 009; 0168


Probate/administrations:
Coleman Hugh Kidman
of 79 Eastern-avenue Northampton
died 19 March 1951
Probate London 25 May
to Harold Alexander Luxford factory manager
Effects £780 13s
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=kidman&yearOfDeath=1951&page=2#calendar

Walter Carter
of 8 The Avenue The Baulk Biggleswade Bedfordshire
died 16 Nov 1962
Probate London 14 Jan
to Ernest Carter Sidney Carter and Percy Carter farmers
Effects £2115 19s
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=carter&yearOfDeath=1963&page=18#calendar

Leopold Henry Day
otherwise Leopold (the elder)
of the Bakery North Collingham Nottinghamshire
died 31 Dec 1938 at Bromhead Nursing Home Lincoln
Adminstration (with will) 29 April
to Mable Day widow and Leopold Henry Day baker
Effects £1912 17s 6d
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=day&yearOfDeath=1939&page=4#calendar

Mabel Day
of The Bakery North Collingham Nottinghamshire
widow died 24 Feb 1962 at 122 Boultham Park Road Lincoln
Administration (with will) Nottingham 3 May
to Leopold Henry Day baker
Effects £1199 6s
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=day&yearOfDeath=1962&page=10#calendar

Elsie Mary Kidman
of Longfield Fambridge Clo Maldon Essex
died 17 Feb 1981
Probate London 30 Mar
£2239
810005872T
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=Kidman&yearOfDeath=1981#calendar

Thomas Randolph Kidman
of 11 Crown Road Friern Barnet Middlesex
died 6 Jan 1964
Probate London 26 Mar
to Michael Randolph Kidman projector repair mechanic
£3501
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=Kidman&yearOfDeath=1964&page=3#calendar

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