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Union Street Caravans
« on: Friday 16 March 18 18:05 GMT (UK) »
On some census returns my relatives address is given as A Carravan, Union Street, St Mary Newington and again 10 years later as Union Street Caravans. I can't find anything out about this. Does anyone have any info about any caravan 'park' here and why they may have been living here. This is in 1861 and 1871. Thanks 

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Re: Union Street Caravans
« Reply #1 on: Friday 16 March 18 18:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi I suggest in 1861 he was possibly "Parked" in Union Street in a Caravan,  if he was the James Taylor 30 occ Coster Monger with family
Census ref RG09/343/40/39 & RG10/620/57/43 occ Fish Hawker.
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Re: Union Street Caravans
« Reply #2 on: Friday 16 March 18 21:09 GMT (UK) »
Thanks that is him but would he still be 'parked' 10 years later as on the 1871 census. Was this an established area? Was this a normal thing to do?

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Re: Union Street Caravans
« Reply #3 on: Friday 16 March 18 21:17 GMT (UK) »
Thanks that is him but would he still be 'parked' 10 years later as on the 1871 census. Was this an established area? Was this a normal thing to do?

All the other families alongside are in households, although from a cursory look a number are Hawkers of some type.
Possibly someone with more information can advise if it was possible to "Park" a Caravan in 1861/71 Surrey, remember he could have travelled elsewhere and what we are seeing is where his is on specific dates 1861/71?
Was he married to a Johnson.
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Re: Union Street Caravans
« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 March 18 21:33 GMT (UK) »
Yes his wife was Maria Johnson

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Re: Union Street Caravans
« Reply #5 on: Friday 16 March 18 21:39 GMT (UK) »
Yes his wife was Maria Johnson

OK when/where did they marry, 1858 Camberwell?
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Re: Union Street Caravans
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 17 March 18 06:53 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I believe that married 22/2/1858 Camberwell

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Re: Union Street Caravans
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 17 March 18 16:57 GMT (UK) »
Does anyone have any info about any caravan 'park' here and why they may have been living here.

You can see Union Street on this 1879 map. (If it is the correct one?)
http://maps.nls.uk/view/103313045#zoom=5&lat=9820&lon=6456&layers=BT

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Re: Union Street Caravans
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 17 March 18 17:11 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if “caravan” had the same meaning in 1861/71 as it does today, its origins mean a group of travelling merchants, as in a string of camels travelling across the desert, and refers as much to the people as to their means of carrying their goods, so you could maybe have a “caravan” of costermongers with their distinctive barrows.

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