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Baptised twice - on same day!
« on: Sunday 18 March 18 09:03 GMT (UK) »
From Free Reg baptisms:-

Sarah Smith 14 Jul 1822. St John Evangelist, Brecon  AND  Llanfaes Tabernacle
Joseph Smith 23 Apr 1826. St John Evangelist  AND Llanfaes Tabernacle.

Can someone explain, please?

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Re: Baptised twice - on same day!
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 18 March 18 09:12 GMT (UK) »
My assumption is that Llanfaes Tabernacle is a chapel within the parish of St John Evangelist, Brecon, and that the baptisms have been entered in both registers.   :-\
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Re: Baptised twice - on same day!
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 18 March 18 09:24 GMT (UK) »
Possible, but from what I can see, Llanfaes is  a Welsh Wesleyan Methodist Chapel and St John is the cathedral church of the Church in Wales. Would there have been some form of inter-denominational recognition of baptisms?

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Re: Baptised twice - on same day!
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 March 18 09:34 GMT (UK) »
I don't know - I don't have any connections to Breconshire.  However, looking at the entries on FreeREG, the Llanfaes entry is shown as "Transcription" whereas St John is shown as "Parish Register" as the source.

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Re: Baptised twice - on same day!
« Reply #4 on: Monday 19 March 18 08:12 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, Bumble. I had noticed the distinction  and assumed the baptisms had taken place at St John's but I cannot  understand how reference to the event should appear in association with a non-conformist chapel - twice.

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Re: Baptised twice - on same day!
« Reply #5 on: Monday 19 March 18 08:17 GMT (UK) »
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
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Re: Baptised twice - on same day!
« Reply #6 on: Monday 19 March 18 09:07 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I saw that. Unfortunately there is no reference to any earlier meeting place. However to finance and justify the new building suggests to me that there was a pre-existing congregation. Anyway it's all rather academic in the context of family history.

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Re: Baptised twice - on same day!
« Reply #7 on: Monday 19 March 18 09:49 GMT (UK) »
I would think that the only way to verify the information is to view the parish register entry.  I think that these are available at West Glamorgan Records Office.

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Re: Baptised twice - on same day!
« Reply #8 on: Monday 19 March 18 10:22 GMT (UK) »
I don't know - I don't have any connections to Breconshire.  However, looking at the entries on FreeREG, the Llanfaes entry is shown as "Transcription" whereas St John is shown as "Parish Register" as the source.

This could mean that it was transcribed from an earlier register.

Just a random thought. Could it be that the parents had two different religions so felt it was important to baptise them in both churches?
The following names appear in my family tree: Bells [Dumfries], Todd [Perth], McLean [Campbeltown], Newson [Suffolk], Fosse(y) [Buckinghamshire], Butler [Glamorganishire], Jenkins [Glamorgan/ England], Tilling or Telling [Gloucestershire]