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Re: What happened to the McCartneys?
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 18 March 18 14:09 GMT (UK) »
Daily Times Obit Index lists Josephine Macartney - 1915 - 2006 Dale City CA

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Re: What happened to the McCartneys?
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 18 March 18 14:10 GMT (UK) »
JOSEPHINE MACARTNEY Born July 22, 1914, New York City. Died April 4, 2006, Daly City, California. Memorial Service 3 p.m., Saturday, April 22, 2006, St. Andrews Episcopal Church, 13601 Saratoga Ave., Saratoga CA.
Published in East Bay Times on 19 April 2006

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Re: What happened to the McCartneys?
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 18 March 18 16:17 GMT (UK) »
New York, City Directory, 1933 - Marion B Macartney and Alex Macartney -  clks -  509 170 West 170 th  - Apt 41

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Re: What happened to the McCartneys?
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 18 March 18 19:35 GMT (UK) »
Someone has an ancestry tree (a McCartney) that says Marion passed away in California - (Unfortunately no source)  :-\
California Deaths index has Marian B Macartney, born 1 March 1879, died 29 December 1974, San Mateo, California.

That must be the one whose visit to Keith was mentioned to me in about 1984 - my informant remembered the visit 'a number of years ago' but couldn't be more precise.

I wonder what happened to Charles Elmer Rosefelt and why Marion listed herself as single in the 1930 and 1940 censuses?
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Re: What happened to the McCartneys?
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 18 March 18 19:48 GMT (UK) »
I added more details for Charles on reply 5 - he was 51 years old so perhaps he passed away.  I didn't find any record earlier.

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Re: What happened to the McCartneys?
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 18 March 18 20:08 GMT (UK) »
I added more details for Charles on reply 5 - he was 51 years old so perhaps he passed away.  I didn't find any record earlier.
Yes, I noted that, thank you. Also that it was his second marriage. I have saved the images of his index card and Marion's. But I can't find him in any census at all, before or after.

The curious thing is that in both 1930 and 1940, when you'd expect her to call herself Marion Rosefelt, widow, she is calling herself Marion Macartney, single.
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Re: What happened to the McCartneys?
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 18 March 18 20:13 GMT (UK) »
Maybe a combination of the spelling of the surname   :-\
Yes, that's it. Given the myriad variants that do present themselves when I search for McCartney, it is rather surprising that Macartney doesn't come up as a result, because it would have exactly the same Soundex value. I can just about understand why McCarterney wouldn't appear :)
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Re: What happened to the McCartneys?
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 18 March 18 20:31 GMT (UK) »
Re Marion's husband, I think the name is Rosenfelt, not Rosefelt. He is in the 1920 census in Jersey City with two adult children Lucille and Charles. The occupation (publisher, patterns) ties in to the business incorporation reference I posted earlier.   https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRXF-91X?i=10&cc=1488411

A boarder in Jersey City in 1930 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRCD-8TW?i=56&cc=1810731

 and with the same landlady in 1940 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L99M-QS1P?i=13&cc=2000219

Possible burial in 1962 https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/104628829
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Re: What happened to the McCartneys?
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 18 March 18 20:57 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, ShaunJ, that looks promising.
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