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Offline Oz Kim

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McArthur Family emigration
« on: Monday 19 March 18 00:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone

    Hoping someone can help locate this family as I cannot access records outside the UK atm

1851 Scottish Census - Colliertree Lanarkshire

John McArthur, 52yrs, born Campbellton, Argyleshire, Scotland, Coal miner
Margaret McArthur, 45yrs, wife, born Crawford Lanarkshire
Janet McArthur, 21yrs, daughter, born Cambusneath Lanarkshire
Archibald McArthur, 16yrs, son, born New Monkland Lanarkshire
Jane McArthur, 12yrs, daughter, born New Monkland Lanarkshire
Agnes McArthur, 9yrs, daughter, born New Monkland
Margaret McArthur, 8yrs, daughter, born New Monkland
Elizabeth McArthur, 2yrs, daughter, born New Monkland
Janet Crawford, 80yrs, Mother in Law, born Crawford Lanarkshire, Pauper

after this census return the family drop off the grid in Scotland

my main interest is with Margaret snr whose maiden name was WATT & Janet WATT (Crawford) I don't know why she is recorded in this census under her maiden name. Where did they end up & did Janet travel with them?

Margaret's brother William Watt (my ancestor) emigrated to America with half his family in 1865 so it's possible they followed the McArthur's...2 sons remained in Scotland, 3 children emigrated to Australia & at some point some ended up in N.Z.

                           I would be grateful for anything

                                                                         Kim


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Re: McArthur Family emigration
« Reply #1 on: Monday 19 March 18 19:51 GMT (UK) »
Janet Crawford, 80yrs, Mother in Law, born Crawford Lanarkshire, Pauper

.............Janet WATT (Crawford) I don't know why she is recorded in this census under her maiden name.

In Scotland records, the woman's maiden name remained important and is  recorded on births/baptisms, marriages and deaths/burials and MI's of herself, her children and her spouse. It was completely regular to see a married woman recorded, for example on a Census with her husband and children under her maiden name - and possibly more common, for a widow to use her maiden name.

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AMBLY
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Re: McArthur Family emigration
« Reply #2 on: Monday 19 March 18 21:26 GMT (UK) »
Partly using a combination of Family Search and Scotland's People Index - it seems certain the son Archibald McARTHUR (b 1835)  at least, remained in Scotland.

HIS BIRTH:
Archibald McARTHUR, 25 Mar 1835
Parents: John McARTHUR and Margaret WATT
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTGM-61M

MARRIAGE 1860:

Archibald McARTHUR to Elizabeth WALKER, in Glagow on 22 Jun 1860
(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYWQ-W4Q

CENSUS 1861
: At, Bathgate, West Lothian
Head: Archibald McARTHUR 26, Coal Miner, b New Monkland, Lanarhshire
Wife: Elisabeth McARTHUR 21, b Springburn, Lanarkshire

BIRTH of WIFE 1840:
Elizabeth WALKER,  born 30 March 1840 in Glasgow Barony
Parents:  John WALKER and Margaret REID
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X19L-TJL

BIRTH OF THEIR FIRST CHILD:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQS9-6XT
 Margaret Reid McARTHUR, b 24 Apr 1861 Bathgate,West Lothian,Scotland.
Parents:  John WALKER and Margaret REID

Then they have:
Mary (1863, Old Kilpatrick, Dunbarton),
Elizabeth (1865, Old Kilpatrick, Dunbarton),
John (1867, Old Kilpatrick, Dunbarton)
Robert Walker (1869 Cadder, Lanark)
Archibald (1872 Cadder, Lanark)
James (1873, Cadder, Lanark) (probably died aged 1, registered Cadder 1875)

CENSUS 1871: At Lindsay's Land, Cadder, Lanarkshire
Head: Archibald McARTHUR 36, Iron Miner, b Airdrie
Wife: Elisabeth McARTHUR 31, b Springburn, Lanarkshire
Dau: Margaret R McARTHUR 9, b Armadale, Linlithgowshire
Dau: Mary McARTHUR 7, b Old Kilpatrick, Dumbartonshire
Dau: Elizabeth McARTHUR 5, b Old Kilpatrick, Dumbartonshire
Son: John McARTHUR 3, Old Kilpatrick, Dumbartonshire
Son: Robert McARTHUR 1,  b Bishopbriggs, Lanarkshire

DEATH of WIFE 1878:
Of wife, Elizabeth  McARTHUR, other surname WALKER, age 37
Registered in Cadder, Lanarkshire

CENSUS 1881:
At 8 Eastfield Street, St Rollox, Glasgow Barony
Head: Archibald McARTHUR 46, Iron Miner, b Airdrie
Dau: Margaret R McARTHUR 19, Cotton Coop Winder, b Armadale, Linlithgowshire
Son: John McARTHUR 13, Scholar, b New Kilpatrick, Dumbartonshire
Son: Archibald McARTHUR 8, Baker, b Cadder

CENSUS 1891: At 3 Greenbank Tce, Dennistoun, Glasgow Barony, Lanarkshire
Head: Archibald McARTHUR 56, Machine Driller, b Airdrie
Dau: Lizzie McARTHUR 25, Housekeeper, b Old Kilpatrick
Son: John McARTHUR 23, iron Turner, b Garscadden, Dumbarton
Son: Archibald McARTHUR 18, Baker, b Bishopbriggs
Visitor: Maggie WATT 16, Scholar, b Airdrie

CENSUS 1901: At 786 Springburn Road, Dennistoun, Glasgow Maryhill
Head: Archd McARTHUR 66, Iron Driller, b Airdrie
Dau: Mary McARTHUR 36, Baker's Shop Assistant, b Old K'ptk, Dumbartonshire
Dau: Elizabeth McARTHUR 34, Baker's Shop Assistant, b Old K'ptk, Dumbartonshire

So who is the 1891 Visitor: Maggie WATT...  :) perhaps you recognise  her from research you already have on the WATT family?

Cheers AMBLY
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Offline Oz Kim

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Re: McArthur Family emigration
« Reply #3 on: Monday 19 March 18 23:13 GMT (UK) »
Thank you very much Ambly this explains the maiden name confusion

I don't know who this Maggie Watt could be. I have only found 2 children for John Watt & Janet Crawford -William & Margaret and as only 2 of William Watt's sons remained in Scotland when the family emigrated & only one of them had children I'm guessing Maggie Watt must be a descendant of Williams eldest son Robert Finlayson Watt. I haven't delved to far beyond Roberts children as my ancestor was William's son David Hutchison Watt who ended up in Australia.

                                Thanks again for your help

                                                                 Kim

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Re: McArthur Family emigration
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 28 November 18 09:32 GMT (UK) »
There is an 1841 census at Colliertree, Airdrie, New Monkland
John McArthur, 40
Margaret, 35
Margaret, 14
Archibald, 6
Jane, 3
Agnes, 1 mth.

There is a marriage for John McArthur to Margaret Watt, 11 June 1824 at Muirkirk, Lanarkshire.

And there is a death for Janet Crawford (maiden name McArthur) at Argyll.      Quite a lot of information on the certificate.     Her father was Donald Crawford, a Weaver and her mother was Mary McArthur.       Children named on the death cert were: Alex, 50; Ann, 48; Donald, 46; Archibald, 41; Hugh, 38; and John, 34.

Janet died at Furnace, Cumlodden, Argyll on 30 Nov 1855 and is buried at Kilmartin.    There were three witnesses.      One is Archibald Gillies, and it says "son of deceased".     

Don't quite know where all the above fit in on your tree, or if this is the sort of information that you are interested in.
                                      Brian     
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