cathrine rooney

[jowens48]

sorry I was getting the dates mixed up before can I blame it on my age

[heywood]

hi I have cathrine.s birth certificate for 15 march 1842 wigan union street died 2 sep 1909 durham she married james sewell 16 dec 1861her father daniel rooney b abt 1816 Ireland died 29 feb 1852 age 36 on the surgical ward of the workhouse .  her mother Margaret re married peter mc manus although I cant find a marriage she moved rfom wigan to durham from cathrine being born I can.t find her on any census she did.nt go to durham with her mother and stepfather.  next I have her lodging with the hardy family not far from her mother in durham .

Hello again,
I am sorry but your message isn’t very clear.
You have:
1842 Catherine’s birth certificate with parents Daniel Rooney and Margaret Goulding. Wigan
1849 Catherine’s emigration to US aged 9 yrs
1852 Daniel Rooney death in Liverpool Workhouse
1861 Catherine in Durham - living at the same address but different household to James Sewell
1861 Catherine’s marriage to J S

I don’t understand your reference to mother Margaret.
Is this right?
She married McManus but you haven’t got the marriage.
You haven't got Margaret in any census.

I just wonder how do you know that the death of Daniel is your ancestor? He should be in 1851 census - do you have him there?
As I wrote before, how do you know that it is the same Catherine who emigrated?

It is confusing.

Heywood

[jowens48]

hi again I got my information of ancestry I I clicked on all the information at the side of her name and it said she was on the mary pleasant I thought It must be her because she is nowhere to be found until she turns up in durham may be its not her but where is she .she did,nt go to durham with her mother .when Margaret met peter mc manus thay had two sons in Manchester Patrick and Thomas  cathrine.s half brothers .but when thay moved to durham cathrine wasn.t with them in the census I wonder where she

[heatherjulie]

1861
Gilesgate 183, Durham
Thomas Hardy   29 Journeyman Joiner
Mary Hardy   28
John Hardy   6
Thomas Hardy   5
William Hardy   3
Catherine Rooney Lodger18 born Wigan, Lancashire

RG9/3741/77/28

[heywood]

1861
Gilesgate 183, Durham
Thomas Hardy   29 Journeyman Joiner
Mary Hardy   28
John Hardy   6
Thomas Hardy   5
William Hardy   3
Catherine Rooney Lodger18 born Wigan, Lancashire

RG9/3741/77/28

Also at the same address but a different household are the Sewell family as I wrote earlier. Sorry, I thought you had her in Durham.

Heywood

[heywood]

Is this the McManus family?
1851 2391/166/40

87 Gilesgate, Durham

Peter McManners 31 yrs Hawker b Ireland
Margaret McManners   31 yrs b Ireland
Patrick McManners 4yrs b Manchester
Thomas McManners 2 yrs b Manchester
Mary Malvin servant 20yrs b Ireland
reads Malone not Malvin

Do you have the boys birth certificates?

[heywood]

Just found your earlier thread re Margaret and Catherine with a bit more information

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=714116.

[heywood]

Just a couple of things which may be important, after reading your other thread and finding the McManus family.

There is this birth

1845 June quarter, Wigan
Patrick Rouen mmn Goulding

This is quite likely to be Patrick as there is that birth and death of Mary Rooney mmn Goulding in 1847, Wigan.

Newspaper snippet
February 1862 Durham County Advertister
Patrick Rooney of Gilesgate Moor charged by his mother Margaret McManus with assaulting her.

[heywood]

I noticed this Catherine in Wigan in 1851 2199/338/46

Catherine Goulding, 7yrs abt 1844. She is lodging at a house and another lodger is Patrick Goulding, 24 yrs.

There is nothing else to go on. I have tried to cross check her with others.