LOWES Family of Corsenside and Dueshill - actual houses lived in?

[Tickettyboo]

I have found the will for Elizabeth Herons father, but can’t seem to find one for Benjamin Lowes - which means he likely died intestate, yes?

Just as happens now, even if he died intestate a grant of administration of his affairs (granted by the Probate Court) would have been necessary to administer his estate  if the estate value exceeded a specific amount (fairly low).

In the post 1858 probate calendars, if it says Probate Granted, then that person left a will which was duly proved. If it says Admin Granted then the person had died without leaving a will (or one that could be found) and Administration of the estate was granted.

Boo

[Tickettyboo]

Boo, thank you so much, I had no idea about this. I’ve got loads of people to search for now!

I'd strongly recommend reading through other posts in here and the replies they receive, even if they have nothing to do with the families you are researching. There is a wealth of resources out there and I have learned a huge amount about how and where to look from just reading questions and replies on the forum.
In a lot of ways knowing what may be available is the hardest part of research, once we learn where and how to find info the actual searching is a lot easier and more rewarding.

Boo

[Christianmpoulsen]

I have found the will for Elizabeth Herons father, but can’t seem to find one for Benjamin Lowes - which means he likely died intestate, yes?

Just as happens now, even if he died intestate a grant of administration of his affairs (granted by the Probate Court) would have been necessary to administer his estate  if the estate value exceeded a specific amount (fairly low).

In the post 1858 probate calendars, if it says Probate Granted, then that person left a will which was duly proved. If it says Admin Granted then the person had died without leaving a will (or one that could be found) and Administration of the estate was granted.

Boo

Thanks Boo, I’ll have a look and see if i can find Benjamin again. Good advice re reading other posts!

[Tickettyboo]

I have found the will for Elizabeth Herons father, but can’t seem to find one for Benjamin Lowes - which means he likely died intestate, yes?

Just as happens now, even if he died intestate a grant of administration of his affairs (granted by the Probate Court) would have been necessary to administer his estate  if the estate value exceeded a specific amount (fairly low).

In the post 1858 probate calendars, if it says Probate Granted, then that person left a will which was duly proved. If it says Admin Granted then the person had died without leaving a will (or one that could be found) and Administration of the estate was granted.

Boo

Thanks Boo, I’ll have a look and see if i can find Benjamin again. Good advice re reading other posts!

I think your assumption that they owned the farm may be a bit optimistic. Most farms back then were owned by the large estates and rented to the people who farmed them. Try searching through old newspapers to see if there are are any for sale or to let adverts?

Boo

[stanmapstone]

From the Yorkshire Post and Leeds Intelligencer - Saturday 20 July 1929

[JenB]

Is this ‘Craig’ Corsenside do you think?

http://www.gatehouse-gazetteer.info/English%20sites/2625.html

That will be it see https://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html#/Map/393710/599871/10/101337 it is to the west of Woodhouses.

I'm not convinced this is the same place as the 'Craig' referred to by christian, who states in his original posting that his Lowes family are living there in the 1841 census of Corsenside.

The place you link to is some distance from Corsenside, a little south of Holystone. I think this is the place called The Craig in the 1841 census of Elsdon, Woodside Ward (HO 107 / 829 / 28 / 4 / 3 )

'Craig', in the Parish of Corsenside, as referred to by christian, is found at HO 107 / 838 / 15 / 5 / 2 in Enumeration District 7.  This is described as 'south of the river road and west of the turnpike road called Watling Street and all that part of the Redesdale Ironworks village as  lies east of Watling Street'.

Neighbouring 'Craig' are Ridsdale Moor and Chesterhope. So I suggest that it's quite possibly the place called The Crag here http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=15&lat=55.1629&lon=-2.1813&layers=6&right=BingHyb , now called Cragg Farm.
which is quite clearly west of the turnpike (now the A68) and south of the 'river road' which is the road from Bellingham to West Woodburn (and a very lovely road it is  )

(The Northumberland Farm Index shows two places called 'Crag'. One is in Woodside Ward Township, Elsdon. The other, The Crag, is in Chesterhope North & West Township, Corsenside.)

[JenB]

If I have the right place in Corsenside Parish, it is a listed building:
https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1154147

[stanmapstone]

You can see The Crag on the map at https://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html#/Map/388552/585437/12/100954 and Woodhouse at https://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html#/Map/388883/587134/10/101322
both these are in West Woodburn Corsenside. So this Woodhouse is not Holystone Grange

Side by side http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=14&lat=55.1731&lon=-2.1771&layers=6&right=BingHyb

Stan

[JenB]

You can see The Crag on the map at https://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html#/Map/388552/585437/12/100954 and Woodhouse at https://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html#/Map/388883/587134/10/101322
both these are in West Woodburn Corsenside. So this Woodhouse is not Holystone Grange

Side by side http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=14&lat=55.1731&lon=-2.1771&layers=6&right=BingHyb

So, you are agreeing with me that the place previously identified as Craig is not correct?