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Re: Need help with tracking RUBY REID
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 22 March 18 11:25 GMT (UK) »
Gaye ... still looking too for the birth registration of Ruby REID.
[Am not finding her parents on electoral rolls at this stage either.  ???  ]

In the meantime >

*  On Ruby's marriage certificate, who are the person's named as witnesses, please.
[Sometimes this can be helpful in tracking other relatives of the bride or groom.]

    ~  Lu

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Re: Need help with tracking RUBY REID
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 22 March 18 12:27 GMT (UK) »

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/EP19351203.2.139

ENGAGEMENTS :   (3 December 1935)

NUNNS - HOARE .... Zelma, eldest daughter of Mr. and the late Mrs. R. HOARE (Melbourne).
 ???

Mmm ... it's not terribly clear from the above notice whether "Mrs. HOARE" was in fact in Melbourne ???

Richard HOARE disappears from NZ Electoral rolls after 1928 (when he was living with his mother Hannah at Petone).
I note that he died in Melbourne (reg. at Fitzroy) in 1955.

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Re: Need help with tracking RUBY REID
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 29 March 18 04:25 BST (UK) »
This appears to be the marriage of the second daughter:

1937/397   Esma Olive   Hoare   Ronald Francis   Barber

Added: Cenotaph details for Ronald Francis Barber:

http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-memorial/online-cenotaph/record/C143382?n=ronald%20barber&ordinal=0&from=%2Fwar-memorial%2Fonline-cenotaph%2Fsearch

His death?

1970/29724   Barber   Ronald Francis   56Y


Could you please respond to Lu's request @ reply #9:

*  On Ruby's marriage certificate, who are the person's named as witnesses, please.
[Sometimes this can be helpful in tracking other relatives of the bride or groom.]



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Re: Need help with tracking RUBY REID
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 29 March 18 04:42 BST (UK) »
Death:

1977/42351   Nunns   Zelma Agnes   23 December 1915


Probate:

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=23079780


Headstone photograph [& Cemetery details]:

https://wellington.govt.nz/services/community-and-culture/cemeteries/cemeteries-search/details?id=84392&serviceType=Burial&previousPage=%2fservices%2fcommunity-and-culture%2fcemeteries%2fcemeteries-search%2fresults%3fserviceType%3dAll%26firstNames%3dzelma%26lastName%3dnunns%26fromDate%3d01%252f01%252f1840%26toDate%3d29%252f03%252f2018%26cemetery%3dAll


Last name   NUNNS
First name   ZELMA AGNES
Age   61 Years
Occupation   Widow
Service provided   Burial
Burial date   17/06/1977
Cemetery   Karori
Section   ROM CATH
Plot number   338 T
Record number   84392


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O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.


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Re: Need help with tracking RUBY REID
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 12 April 18 05:36 BST (UK) »
sooooo sorry for the delay in getting back to you  :o

Meantime my niece's business associate who was my enquirer - obtained the death certificate and says it is not the one and same, RUBINA REID (parents are not the same as on the marriage cert)

So....

Witnesses on the marriage cert are Hannah Hoare (mother of bridegroom, Petone) and A G Harper, Clerk, Wellington

The Hoare family info is pretty good via FindaGrave and Geni.com



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Re: Need help with tracking RUBY REID
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 12 April 18 06:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Gaye,

Can you give us a full transcription of the marriage certificate, please? The information might provide a lead.

Spades

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Re: Need help with tracking RUBY REID
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 12 April 18 07:37 BST (UK) »
oK Spades : here it is


Register of Marriage by Regisrar ub the District of Wellington #4605
1915

#217 25 September 1915  Richard HOARE age 24 years Scudder Bachelor Birthplace: Petone
Father : Edward Hoare Mother Hannah Hoare nee Gough
Ruby Reid age 21 years - Spinster Birthplace : Dunedin Father Thomas Reid, Carpenter Mother Margaret Reid nee Ferguson
both parties signed the regisgter
Witnesses:  Hannah Hoare mother of the bridegroom, Petone
A G Harper Clerk, Wellington
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Re: Need help with tracking RUBY REID
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 12 April 18 07:51 BST (UK) »
Hello Gaye,

Have you by any chance tried to climb the tree of Zelma, the daughter? By doing so, it may be possible to make contact with descendants, who could have knowledge of Ruby's birth details.

Obtaining the newspaper death notice for Zelma would be a starting point..........


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O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Need help with tracking RUBY REID
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 12 April 18 08:06 BST (UK) »
Richard’s death registration:

14360 1955 HOARE Richard parents HOARE Edward and Hannah (Geogh) Place of birth TAITO NEW ZEALAND Place of death FITZROY Aged 66

I’m not seeing a death for Ruby in VIC.

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