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Lawrence Stanton born "St James" parish 1821
« on: Wednesday 21 March 18 23:11 GMT (UK) »
I'm puzzled by this gentleman - it's difficult to confirm who his parents were. I don't know where this St James parish could be. That is all that is given in the 1851 census. Lawrence died in 1860. His possible parents James and Martha came from Norfolk and had younger children in Yaxley in Suffolk.

The fact that Lawrence is in London in 1851 suggests that St. James parish could be the one in central London and therefore he might have nothing to do with James and Martha Stanton.

Any suggestions would be welcomed.

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Re: Lawrence Stanton born "St James" parish 1821
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 21 March 18 23:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Is he the man with wife Ann in 1851 ? Married Ann Fleming 19 November 1843. The parish register at St Mary Newington of their marriage confirms his father was a James Stanton - labourer.

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Re: Lawrence Stanton born "St James" parish 1821
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 22 March 18 00:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I have found a record for the marriage of a James Stanton of Yaxley to a Martha Walne at Pulham St Mary the Virgin, Norfolk but this is in 1825 - which would make Lawrence a bit younger than what you thought or they are possibly not his parents.

Have you found any possible baptism for him ?
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Re: Lawrence Stanton born "St James" parish 1821
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 22 March 18 07:31 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for looking into this for me. What you have said is correct - a marriage in 1825 between James Stanton and Martha Walne and, according to the 1851 census, Lawrence would have been born in 1820-1821, which would make him illegitimate by James and Martha, or by Martha and someone else, or by completely different parents. But, as you say, his father was called james.

I cannot find Lawrence in the 1841 census, having searched exhaustively using different search terms. In 1846, he was in gaol - perhaps he was also in gaol in 1841. Lawrence died in 1860.

St. James parish is the puzzler - I'm still trying to work out if this was in Norfolk or Suffolk.


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Re: Lawrence Stanton born "St James" parish 1821
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 22 March 18 07:38 GMT (UK) »
There are lots of St.James parishes in Norfolk and Suffolk but there is a village St James, South Elmham, Suffolk.

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Re: Lawrence Stanton born "St James" parish 1821
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 22 March 18 07:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Presuming I am looking at the correct prison record - tried at Surrey September 1846, imprisoned for 9 months for assault - his age given in the record was 21( year of birth 1825) - which would tie in nicely with James & Martha's marriage in 1825, if she was possibly pregnant when they married.

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Re: Lawrence Stanton born "St James" parish 1821
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 22 March 18 10:09 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that - I'll have to get myself down to the SRO and look in St James South Elmham baptisms for about 1825.

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Re: Lawrence Stanton born "St James" parish 1821
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 22 March 18 23:38 GMT (UK) »
If this is his death then he would have been born 1821.

STANTON, LAWRENCE        39      
GRO Reference: 1860  J Quarter in LAMBETH  Volume 01D  Page 194

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Re: Lawrence Stanton born "St James" parish 1821
« Reply #8 on: Friday 23 March 18 01:03 GMT (UK) »
Going back to the marriage of a James Stanton of Yaxley to a Martha Walne at Pulham St Mary, the other Witnesses Robert Stanton, Elizabeth Stanton, they could be James siblings...

James Stanton. baptised 12 Sep 1799, St Mary the Virgin, Pulham St Mary.  To James and Sarah.

Robert Stanton. baptised 12 Jun 1805, St Mary the Virgin, Pulham St Mary.  To James and Sarah.

Elizabeth Stanton. baptised 10 Jun 1813, St Mary the Virgin, Pulham St Mary.  To James and Sarah.

Fathers occupation, Miller.    Other siblings, William 1802, Thomas 1804, John 1808, Anna 1817.

There is a Chapel of St James, Pulham St Mary the Virgin.