Gysberta TOTTON (Dutch)

[mickawinn]

Also meant to say that I have found some birth records which have a remark recorded with variations of ‘recognition by parents’ with a date later than the birth date. Do you know what significance this is?

[mickawinn]

Sorry jumped the gun. I have just found the parents marriage several years after the births. I assume this is legitimising the births?

[TreeSpirit]

I'm a bit confused by this ‘recognition by parents’  as I cannot find Hendrica Maria Hofstede having children before 1912. Could you show me some examples ...

Here are some examples of actual certificates for this family:
Antonius Petrus Tonnon ( born 11/1/1886 Delfshaven) X Hendrica Maria Hofstede (born 18/12/1890 Arnhem, died 21-11-1929)
Marriage: 22-05-1912 Rotterdam
Marriage certificate:  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939D-MXQD?i=854&cc=1576401
“Huwelijksbijlagen” = (Pre) Marriage documentation – 4 pages start here: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939X-RD93-4H?i=2575&cc=1576401
Death Certificate (Hendrica): https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9398-1RSQ-B1?i=2630&cc=1576401

Petrus Josephus Tonnon b 02-11-1912 Rotterdam, d 17-01-1913 Rotterdam
Birth Certificate: http://www.stadsarchief.rotterdam.nl/maisi_ajax_proxy.php?mivast=184&mizig=100&miadt=184&miaet=185&micode=999-01&minr=25153117&milang=en
Death Certificate: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9398-1T3C-VN?i=209&cc=1576401

NN Tonnon ( NN = Nomen Nescio, generally used for stillborn children, death certificate only) d 19-11-1913
Death Certificate: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9398-1T3Y-4P?i=875&cc=1576401

[TreeSpirit]

Were you talking about Hendrica herself? The exctract of her birth certificate (in her 1912 "huwelijksbijlagen") mentions that she wasn't acknowledged until her parents marriage a few years later.

She was born as: Hendrika Maria de Lille in Arnhem (prov: Gelderland)

P.S.
1894 Marriage certificate of her parents: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9398-1R3D-VR?i=1751&cc=1576401 (3 daughters are being acknowledged)
The “Huwelijksbijlagen” start here: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939X-P5BF-W?i=1375&cc=1576401  (image 1378 is the extract of Hendrica’s birth, image1382 is the birth extract for the Bride,who was also illegitimate)

[mickawinn]

Sorry Sylvia. In my rush of excitement I have been making great strides in getting back on both the TONNON and HOFSTEDE sides of the family. I have been downloading the records as I have gone along and have left myself a lot of work to examine them. My question about 'recognition' came about from this record. https://www.openarch.nl/show.php?archive=srt&identifier=db18060c-7675-bfb8-7aa3-f4fc8c706546
I think I have got the hang of it now. Thanks for all your help.
Mick

[clayton bradley]

In 1817 Wouter van de Waal married Grietje Berendse at Zoelen. They recognized two children. The second child was Wouter's, however the first was not. The Juridification of Parenthood by Selma Sevenuijsen says, "Theoretically the person who recognizes the child should always be the natural father of the child, but in fact, probably a third to a half of such children were not brought up by their natural fathers." cb