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Baptism at age 25???
« on: Saturday 24 March 18 13:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone

This is just more of a why question, but I have a sibling to my direct ancestor that was born in 1860 in Surrey, but wasn't baptised until 1886. The siblings, including my direct ancestor, were baptised with a month or so of their birth but this one was born May 1860 and baptised in June 1886. She married almost a year later in 1887. I knew this sibling existed but because I couldn't find her until I found the 1886 baptism. Thankfully her date of birth was also written with the baptism date on the record. I just wondered why there would have been such a huge gap between her birth and baptism, yet all her other siblings were born and baptised within a month or so?
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Re: Baptism at age 25???
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 24 March 18 14:02 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps it was just forgotten.  And then later she wanted to be confirmed and realised she had never been christened.
Or maybe her parents attended a non conformist Church for a while where the practice was not to baptise babies, but to baptise people when old enough to make their own decision about faith ("believers baptism") , and so didn't get this chid done as a baby.

All sorts of possible reasons.  That's the thing with Family History - we can often establish what happened, but rarely why!
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Re: Baptism at age 25???
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 24 March 18 14:10 GMT (UK) »
I don't know how true this is but I was told that some Priests or  Vicars insisted the  bride or groom was baptised before marriage, missed out on my husbands grandfather though, no baptism and no registered birth

I have also found just one child not baptised and the others were, like Lizdb says, forgotten

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Re: Baptism at age 25???
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 24 March 18 14:14 GMT (UK) »
Thank you both for your reply.

This sibling that i mention, Alice, is the oldest in the family so I figured they would want her get her baptised, but the thought regarding marriage also crossed my mind. Funny how for most families baptism was a big thing, but now days it's not. I know that Alice had twin brothers and their baptisms are listed as non-conformist but that was in 1872, so after Alice was born.
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Re: Baptism at age 25???
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 24 March 18 14:22 GMT (UK) »
The marriage may have had a bearing on it as Louisa Maud says.
What denomination of church did marriage and baptism take place in?

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Re: Baptism at age 25???
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 25 March 18 07:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Maiden

This is the information i have on both the baptism and marriage:

BAPTISM: 3 June 1886 Battersea St Mary, Wandsworth, England
Baptisms solemnized in the Parish of St Mary Battersea in the County of Surrey in the Year One Thousand Eight Hundred and Eighty Six.

MARRIAGE DATE: 27 March 1887 Christ Church, Battersea, Wandsworth, England
Marriage solemnized at Christ Church in the Parish of Battersea in the County of Surrey

Im putting everything into word documents as i go along for each family member so I dont have to go looking online for my tree constantly :)
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Re: Baptism at age 25???
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 25 March 18 15:06 BST (UK) »
My Aunt was baptised late & it was just before she married.

Odd really because she was my Mums eldest sister both her & her younger sister
were baptised when they were babies.I have always thought of this as strange.
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Re: Baptism at age 25???
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 25 March 18 16:02 BST (UK) »
The Book of Common Prayer, has this comment: "It is convenient that the new-married persons should receive the holy Communion at the time of their Marriage, or at the first opportunity after their Marriage." You had to be baptised to receive Communion, so this is why, sometimes, people got baptised before their wedding.
Meghan Markle was baptised so she can join Prince Harry at Holy Communion if she desires.
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Re: Baptism at age 25???
« Reply #8 on: Monday 26 March 18 16:46 BST (UK) »
The Book of Common Prayer, has this comment: "It is convenient that the new-married persons should receive the holy Communion at the time of their Marriage, or at the first opportunity after their Marriage." You had to be baptised to receive Communion, so this is why, sometimes, people got baptised before their wedding.
Meghan Markle was baptised so she can join Prince Harry at Holy Communion if she desires.
Stan

As far as I'm aware, although it might have changed. one had to be a confirmed member of the C of E before being able to receive Communion. You had to be baptised before you were confirmed.
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