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Re: James Williams 1868
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 10 April 18 11:45 BST (UK) »
Agreed, the Gors family seems likely. 

Strangely, on the 1861,1871 and 1881 they give Eleanorís age as a year younger than Davidís and yet on the marriage cert she is older. :/
Williams - Abergavenny/Cardigan
Penfold - Pagham/Hampshire
Mitchell - Sittingbourne
Matthews - Sittingbourne
Everard - Braintree
Lowe - Kidderminster
Giles - Kidderminster
Sadler - London
Miller -Wiltshire
Tucker - North Devon

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Re: James Williams 1868
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 10 April 18 13:49 BST (UK) »
possibly to cover up that she was under age at marriage? Under 21, there would have been a question of consent.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: James Williams 1868
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 10 April 18 15:35 BST (UK) »

The Morrises in 1851
Vronhoil, Kilgerran HO107/2481 folio 294 pg 26
John Morris head mar 42 farm labour b. Pembs, Manordeifi
Ann wife 42 b. Carms, Kenarth
Eleanor dau 11 b.Cards, Llandygwyd
Sarah dau 10 b. Llandygwyd
Hannah dau 7 b. Llandygwyd
Benjamin son 5 b. Pembs, Kilgerran
James son 2 b. Kilgerran
Martha Francis visitor 6 b. Kilgerran
mother's maiden name from birth regs for Sarah, Benjamin & James is Rees

Possible marriage in Manordeifi 3 July 1834 for John Morris & Anne Rees, both otp, both mark, witnesses Thomas Thomas & Thomas Evan.

Hm, I thought I had Eleanorís birth, Cardigan, q2 1839,  mmn Evans
Williams - Abergavenny/Cardigan
Penfold - Pagham/Hampshire
Mitchell - Sittingbourne
Matthews - Sittingbourne
Everard - Braintree
Lowe - Kidderminster
Giles - Kidderminster
Sadler - London
Miller -Wiltshire
Tucker - North Devon

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Re: James Williams 1868
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 10 April 18 18:12 BST (UK) »
Ah, but GRO does have an Ann Morris MMN Rees in 1839.  Perhaps that is her but they actually called her Eleanor because her mother was Ann.  :/
Williams - Abergavenny/Cardigan
Penfold - Pagham/Hampshire
Mitchell - Sittingbourne
Matthews - Sittingbourne
Everard - Braintree
Lowe - Kidderminster
Giles - Kidderminster
Sadler - London
Miller -Wiltshire
Tucker - North Devon

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Re: James Williams 1868
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 14 April 18 21:21 BST (UK) »
Or she wasn't registered in those early days of civil registration. Not unusual. Her age is given as 2 on the 1841 census which was taken early in June, so sept quarter registration might be stretching it a bit.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: James Williams 1868
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 14 April 18 23:57 BST (UK) »
Or she wasn't registered in those early days of civil registration. Not unusual. Her age is given as 2 on the 1841 census which was taken early in June, so sept quarter registration might be stretching it a bit.

Maybe.

The Ann doesn't seem to appear on the later census' but there is a death in 1840 which could well be her, says 5yrs but could be 5mths.

Thank you for your input.
Williams - Abergavenny/Cardigan
Penfold - Pagham/Hampshire
Mitchell - Sittingbourne
Matthews - Sittingbourne
Everard - Braintree
Lowe - Kidderminster
Giles - Kidderminster
Sadler - London
Miller -Wiltshire
Tucker - North Devon