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Re: Tate of Wistow; Rimington of Pontefract; Todd, Turner & Wharrey of Selby
« Reply #27 on: Friday 06 July 18 14:24 BST (UK) »
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Yes, such coasters could have been carrying raw sugar from London for Hull (much earlier for York, and later for Goole), and refined sugar in the form of sugar loaves from London, and maybe Hull, for almost any town/port they visited.

Don't forget to check Beverley Archives ... I've found great info there for both Hull and Goole.
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Re: Tate of Wistow; Rimington of Pontefract; Todd, Turner & Wharrey of Selby
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 08 July 18 16:35 BST (UK) »
Hello

According to the Yorkshire newspapers under Hull in September and October 1786, Hood is sailing the "Jane" to and from London. Staniland is also sailing a "Jane" from London


19th September 1786, Leeds Intelligencer 
HULL, September 16. 
Coasters Arrived. ... ; Jane, Staniland ; ... from London. 
Coasters Sailed. ... Halifax, Staniland, for London.


3rd October 1786, Leeds Intelligencer 
HULL, September 30.
Coasters Sailed. ... ; Jane, Hood ; Adventure, Smeaton ; and Nottingham, Wilkinson, for London. 


31st October 1786, Leeds Intelligencer 
HULL, October 28. 
Coasters Arrived. ... ; Jane, Hood ; ... from London. 


Some information about Staniland of Selby here.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=1X8uAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA107&lpg=PA107&dq=%22Samuel+Staniland%22+1799+Selby&source=bl&ots=3iJR7G3kfG&sig=n7xwdwpB3Et0qPsaJxGpqpEPick&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiVuJ2S5I_cAhXHBsAKHXxGAzkQ6AEwAnoECAUQAQ

Selby Abbey
On one of the pillars.
Adjacent
Lie the remains of
Thomas Staniland of Selby, ship owner
Who died the 6th day of January, 1799,
aged 34 years.

Also, Samuel Staniland of Selby, Mariner,
Father of the above, who departed
this life the 21st day of April, 1800.
Aged 60 years.

Likewise Jonathan Staniland, ship owner,
son of the above named Samuel, who
died the 24th day of Sept. 1802.
Aged 42 years.

Also, Dinah the wife of Samuel Staniland,
and mother of Thomas and Jonathan
who died the 27th day of April, 1809.
Aged 69 years.

A vault at the foot of the same pillar contains the remains of:-
Stephen Staniland, Esq. who died suddenly Nov. 9th, 1834,
Aged 62 years'


Interesting that a Staniland and Pearson were Executors in Trust to a Collinson
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=783146.0

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Re: Tate of Wistow; Rimington of Pontefract; Todd, Turner & Wharrey of Selby
« Reply #29 on: Monday 09 July 18 11:09 BST (UK) »
Hello

Hood (from 1788) and also a Godmond are sailing in the "Centurion" from Hull to Petersburg and London to Petersburg.

The Trade and Shipping of Eighteenth Century Hull
Petersburg in Russia ...
http://www.eylhs.org.uk/dl/89/trade-and-shipping-of-eighteenth-century-hull

Hopefully, some records at Hull
http://humanities.exeter.ac.uk/includes/centres/cmhs/ELMAP/location.php?loc_id=42


I wonder if Jane Hood (apparently Ioanna in Russia) was Russian?


Stamford Mercury, 5th October 1787
The dock company at Hull, have agreed to form a new dock, spacious enough to contain sixty ships.


Sheffield Register … , 3rd May 1788
HULL
; Centurion, Hood ; … all for Petersburgh, with horses, ale, mahogany, woollen-drapery, earthen and ironmongers ware, & c.


Stamford Mercury, 5th September 1788
HULL, Sept. 1.
Centurion, Hood, for Petersburgh, with woollendrapery, coton stuffs, earthenware, lead, &c. Cave, Jubb, for Riga, with earthenware.


Newcastle Courant, 27th September 1788
Sound List from the 6th to the 13th inst.
Ships      & Captains From      To         Loading
Centurion,    Hood     Hull Petersburgh Goods
Eliza,          Gallilee London   Riga        Ballast


Stamford Mercury, 28th August 1789
HULL, August 24.
Lvde, Birch ; Air Balloon, Metcalf ; Jane and Mary, Merchant ; Amity, Graham ; Henry, Strachan ; and Centurion, Hood, all from Petersburg, with deals, iron & c.


I should have some detailed copies soon I hope around the time of George Hood's birth 1785 to 1787, Mark

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Re: Tate of Wistow; Rimington of Pontefract; Todd, Turner & Wharrey of Selby
« Reply #30 on: Monday 09 July 18 12:32 BST (UK) »
Hello

Extract from Lloyds Register 1789 indicates Captain Hood in the newspapers, was J. HOOD.

Column 1, S = Centurion was a Ship. s = sheathed.
Column 3, SDB = Single Deck with Beams.
Column 4, Surveying Port = Scarbr. rp = repairs.
Column 7, contains the Feet of the Draught of Water When Loaded.
Hl = Hull [Hull - Petersburg]

The Owner / Shipping Agent, is Hewson & Co. of Hull.


Hewson & Co., Hull, had a Ship seized by the French in 1784.

St. James's , July 17th 1784
List of Hostages for English Ransoms, detained in French Prisons.
 ...
Name of Ship and Captain, Good Will - Clifford.
Owner, Hewson and Co. Hull.
Captors, Le Jeune Dunkerquoise - Mulenaer.
Ransom Demanded, 750 Guineas.

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Re: Tate of Wistow; Rimington of Pontefract; Todd, Turner & Wharrey of Selby
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 15 July 18 08:11 BST (UK) »
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Hood (from 1788) and also a Godmond are sailing in the "Centurion" from Hull to Petersburg and London to Petersburg.
 ...


Sheffield Register … , 3rd May 1788
HULL
; Centurion, Hood ; … all for Petersburgh, with horses, ale, mahogany, woollen-drapery, earthen and ironmongers ware, & c.


Stamford Mercury, 5th September 1788
HULL, Sept. 1.
Centurion, Hood, for Petersburgh, with woollendrapery, coton stuffs, earthenware, lead, &c. Cave, Jubb, for Riga, with earthenware.


Newcastle Courant, 27th September 1788
Sound List from the 6th to the 13th inst.
Ships      & Captains From      To         Loading
Centurion,    Hood     Hull Petersburgh Goods
Eliza,          Gallilee London   Riga        Ballast


Stamford Mercury, 28th August 1789
HULL, August 24.
Lvde, Birch ; Air Balloon, Metcalf ; Jane and Mary, Merchant ; Amity, Graham ; Henry, Strachan ; and Centurion, Hood, all from Petersburg, with deals, iron & c.



Hello

Because GODMOND was sailing the "Centurion" out of Hull, with a J. HOOD, late 1780s, I have been searching the surname GODMOND and noticed two GODMOND children have middle surnames, one being GIBSON and the other COLLINSON (both not checked).

Christopher Gibson GODMOND bapt. 1793 Holy Trinity, Hull;
Parents, Christopher GODMOND & Elizabeth.

Mary Collinson GODMOND bapt. 21 February 1815 St Margaret, Lee, Kent;
Parents, Christopher GODMOND & Mary

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Christopher Godmond Pickering, mentioned in a Gibson thread here ...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=356070.msg2336169#msg2336169

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John Pickering married Mary Hannah GODMOND 26 March 1815, H. T., Hull, (F. S. not checked),
if correct, Mother of Christopher Godmond Pickering (bapt. 1816), can't be Jane Gibson.

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Christopher Godmond, Wharfinger, of Hull, bankrupt 1796

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Re: Tate of Wistow; Rimington of Pontefract; Todd, Turner & Wharrey of Selby
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 17 July 18 22:42 BST (UK) »

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27th September 1785, Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, September 22.
COASTERS ARRIVED. ... ; Industry, Hood, from London.


23rd May 1786, Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, May 20.
Coasters Sailed. ... ; Industry, Hood ; ... for London.


22nd August 1786, Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, August 19.
Coasters Arrived. ... ; Industry, Hood ; ... from London.


31st October 1786, Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, October 28.
Coasters Arrived. ... ; Jane, Hood ; ... from London.


26 December 1786 Leeds Intelligencer
HULL, December 21.
Coasters Sailed. ...
Leeds Packet, Hood ; ... for London.


29 December 1786 Stamford Mercury
HULL, Dec. 22.
Coasters Sailed. ...
Leeds Packet, Hood ; ... for London.


Sheffield Register, Yorkshire, ... Universal Advertiser 3 May 1788
Ship News.
HULL.
Sailed. ...
Centurion, Hood ; ... all for Petersburgh, with horses, ale, mahogany, woollen drapery, earthen and ironmongers ware, & c.


Sheffield Register, Yorkshire, ... Universal Advertiser 28 March 1789
SHIP NEWS.
HULL.
Arrived. ... Centurion, Hood ; ... all from London.


Hello

Muster Rolls - Copied into Volumes by Trinity House, Hull 1784 to 1790
These give Ages, Place of Birth and Abode.

John HOOD, Master Mariner, born Scarborough
According to all the Muster Rolls, John Hood, Master of the "Industry" to and from London 1784 - 1786 was born Scarbro' about 1740 and his Abode was recorded as either Hull or Selby until 1786.

John HOOD, Master Mariner, born Selby [? See ***]
According to the Muster Rolls, John Hood, Master of the "Centurion" to and from Petersburgh 1788 to 1790 was born Selby about 1739 to 1743 and his Abode was Hull (April 1788 & 1790) and Selby (Sept. 1788).
Selby was entered as Birthplace when John Hood first sailed the "Centurion" 1788.

ADDED:  *** I suspect the John HOOD, Master of the "Centurion" born Selby, is an error. ***
John HOOD has not personally signed the April 1788 Muster Roll, it has been signed on his behalf by Thos HEWSON and then John Hood's Birth left blank in following Musters 1788 to 1790.

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Looks like John Hood the husband of Jane Hood (Jane Hood buried Selby August 1803) and "Wife of John Hood of Selby, Mariner", was born at Selby, or the place of Birth in the copy Muster of the "Centurion" was wrong.

No clue in the Musters who Jane Hood was (buried Selby in August 1803), nor where she was born, could even be from Petersburgh?

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Re: Tate of Wistow; Rimington of Pontefract; Todd, Turner & Wharrey of Selby
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 18 July 18 00:16 BST (UK) »
Further to the Above

The Master of the "Centurion" overlapping and prior to John Hood was Isaac GODMOND born Hull.

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There is a death Notice aged 74 in 1809, for a Rev. Isaac Godmond, at Ripon.

Page 477 left-hand column
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=nukRAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA477&lpg=PA477&dq=

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"York" Geo NEWBY from London
20th May 1783
Geo Newby, Mas'r Born York, Abode York, age 47.

Two of his crew:-
Wm RUSSELL, Seam', Born SELBY, Abode SELBY, age 24.
Benj'm RUSSELL, Serv't, Born SELBY, Abode YORK, age 22.

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Re: Tate of Wistow; Rimington of Pontefract; Todd, Turner & Wharrey of Selby
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 18 July 18 02:50 BST (UK) »
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Re: Tate of Wistow; Rimington of Pontefract; Todd, Turner & Wharrey of Selby
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 18 July 18 09:13 BST (UK) »

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Muster Rolls - Copied into Volumes by Trinity House, Hull 1784 to 1790
These give Ages, Place of Birth and Abode.

John HOOD, Master Mariner, born Scarborough
According to all the Muster Rolls, John Hood, Master of the "Industry" to and from London 1784 - 1786 was born Scarbro' about 1740 and his Abode was recorded as either Hull or Selby until 1786.


Hello

I suspect the place of "Birth" "Selby" of John HOOD, Master of the "Centurion" in April 1788, is an error.

Where the copy signatures for the "Centurion" are, it says:-
a) Mr Hood and has been signed by Thos Hewson.
b) John Hood's age is fluctuating too much on the "Centurion" 1788 to 1790, as though Hewson is guessing.
c) Subsequent Muster Rolls of the "Centurion also signed by Hewson, have left HOOD's birthplace blank.

So John HOOD didn't fill in the Muster Roll of the "Centurion", it has been filled in by someone guessing John Hood's age & signed by the Thos Hewson (on HOOD's behalf), likely of Hewson & Co., Hull.

The Abode of John Hood is either given as Hull or Selby, in all the Muster Rolls.

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John HOOD, Master, will be the same as John HOOD, Master, of the "Industry" born Scarborough, who was also living at both Hull and Selby. The age of John HOOD, Master of the "Industry" is going up by one year, the following year and John Hood has been entered as signing these earlier Muster Rolls.

Mark