Author Topic: Harriet GREGSON aka Agnes HILL Tasmania  (Read 2022 times)

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Re: Harriet GREGSON aka Agnes HILL Tasmania
« Reply #9 on: Monday 26 March 18 04:32 BST (UK) »
I see that there are articles online about a database for Queenstown burials but I cannot see it on the council's website.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-24/queenstown-pioneer-history-rediscovered-in-cemetery-cleanup/7002954

http://www.theadvocate.com.au/story/4807107/cemetery-database-in-development/

Maybe give them a call.

Debra  :)

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Re: Harriet GREGSON aka Agnes HILL Tasmania
« Reply #10 on: Monday 26 March 18 04:59 BST (UK) »
February birth, reg. Strahan, of Harriet Lillian Denne to Harriet Vincent and Arthur Denne.
https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search/detailnonmodal/ent:$002f$002fNAME_INDEXES$002f0$002fNAME_INDEXES:1133751/one
Died in August, aged 6 months
https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD35-1-66p232j2k

1902 death, Harriett Laurie, Lyell, Tasmania
from - Ancestry.com. Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985

Marriage, Frank Laurie to Sarah Ann Wheatley
1904 'Family Notices', The Mercury (Hobart, Tas. : 1860 - 1954), 13 September, p. 1. , viewed 26 Mar 2018, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article9689683



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Re: Harriet GREGSON aka Agnes HILL Tasmania
« Reply #11 on: Monday 26 March 18 05:04 BST (UK) »
Can you describe your purpose - are you researching the fate of Mary Ann HILL.........the fate of her daughter Harriet LAURIE nee HILL m. 1897...........origins of mother Mary Ann HILL........so we know where to go with this.

And what information you already have.

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Re: Harriet GREGSON aka Agnes HILL Tasmania
« Reply #12 on: Monday 26 March 18 05:31 BST (UK) »

Further to the earlier mention here of assault charge -

The Mercury 1 Dec 1892 p2
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13303777?
....the evidence of Dr O'BRIEN, Harriet Ann VINCENT, the mother of the girl Mary Ann GREGSON, and her sister.........

(a sibling of Harriet) 

Is this the sister -
North West Advocate and Emu Bay Times 5 Mar 1913 p3
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/64908657?
...........At the Police Court today Alice Gregson (or Minnie Hill)............




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Re: Harriet GREGSON aka Agnes HILL Tasmania
« Reply #13 on: Monday 26 March 18 06:18 BST (UK) »
Can you describe your purpose - are you researching the fate of Mary Ann HILL.........the fate of her daughter Harriet LAURIE nee HILL m. 1897...........origins of mother Mary Ann HILL........so we know where to go with this.

And what information you already have.
The only information I now need thanks to the above is the death date and place of Harriett's mother.
Her name was Mary Ann Gregson born 1855. She married a John Sheen (Sheahy) and lived with John Hill aka Badger for many years in a very violent relationship.
She has a long police record and I have all of these details.
My last evidence of her is in January 1898 living in Queenstown TAS.
She went under the name of Gregson or Hill and very occasionally Sheen

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Re: Harriet GREGSON aka Agnes HILL Tasmania
« Reply #14 on: Monday 26 March 18 07:01 BST (UK) »

Further to the earlier mention here of assault charge -

The Mercury 1 Dec 1892 p2
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13303777?
....the evidence of Dr O'BRIEN, Harriet Ann VINCENT, the mother of the girl Mary Ann GREGSON, and her sister.........

(a sibling of Harriet) 

Is this the sister -
North West Advocate and Emu Bay Times 5 Mar 1913 p3
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/64908657?
...........At the Police Court today Alice Gregson (or Minnie Hill)............

I think this refers to the mother's sister, Alice Gregson. The siblings of Mary Ann that I've seen mentioned are noted in this article (Alice, Francis, John)
1871 'POLICE COURT, LAUNCESTON.', The Tasmanian (Launceston, Tas. : 1871 - 1879), 9 September, p. 4. , viewed 26 Mar 2018, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article201348400

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Re: Harriet GREGSON aka Agnes HILL Tasmania
« Reply #15 on: Monday 26 March 18 07:27 BST (UK) »

I can see that Mary Ann GREGSON, being associated with John HILL, would use that HILL family name. Children of Mary Ann GREGSON might also use the HILL family name.

I might not expect to see Alice, sibling of Mary Ann GREGSON, also use the HILL family name?

Tabster, can you  name the children that you have identified as being born to Mary Ann GREGSON

Is Alice GREGSON (Minnie HILL) at 1913,  a daughter of Mary Ann GREGSON?

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Re: Harriet GREGSON aka Agnes HILL Tasmania
« Reply #16 on: Monday 26 March 18 08:06 BST (UK) »
This article notes Alice Gregson and Minnie Hill as being different people
1913 'Police Court.', Examiner (Launceston, Tas. : 1900 - 1954), 5 March, p. 4. (DAILY), viewed 26 Mar 2018, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article50696061

Prisoners record for an Alice Gregson here that I suspect to be a sister of Mary Ann
https://stors.tas.gov.au/POL708-1-3$init=POL708-1-3p124jpg

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Re: Harriet GREGSON aka Agnes HILL Tasmania
« Reply #17 on: Monday 26 March 18 10:43 BST (UK) »
This article notes Alice Gregson and Minnie Hill as being different people
1913 'Police Court.', Examiner (Launceston, Tas. : 1900 - 1954), 5 March, p. 4. (DAILY), viewed 26 Mar 2018, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article50696061

Prisoners record for an Alice Gregson here that I suspect to be a sister of Mary Ann
https://stors.tas.gov.au/POL708-1-3$init=POL708-1-3p124jpg

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Correct Matthew, Alice and Mary Ann were sisters and the Advocate had merged 2 people into the one item, with the Examiner being correct.
Mary definitely had the one child Harriett. In one article it mentions her in court with 2 lively infants but I feel that one of these may have been Alice's son Walter. I can find no other references to further children.