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Birth or Baptism help please
« on: Sunday 25 March 18 14:42 BST (UK) »
Hi all

I am looking for the birth or baptism details for David Fisher. His parents are Edward James Fisher and Martha Fisher nee Clark. According to his marriage certificate to Jane Bass in 1882, he was born abt 1861. On the 1871 census, it says he was born in Kensingbury, Middlesex, England and on the 1891 census it says Kensington, London, England.

I posted on another board regarding his older sister who was born in 1860 but wasn't baptised until 1886, and it was mentioned that Edward James and Martha might have decided to be non-conformists with regards to the children's baptisms. The rest of the children that Edward and Martha had were baptised soon after birth but I can't find a single thing, other than marriage and census records for dates and places, that point to a birth or baptism for David.

If you require any other information, please feel free to ask.

Thank you :)
Fisher - Australia, England
Redhead - Australia, England
Banks - Australia, England
Offord - Australia, England
O'Dwyer - Ireland
Thompson - Australia
Mitchell - Australia, Ireland
Dinte - Australia, England, Poland

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Re: Birth or Baptism help please
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 25 March 18 14:57 BST (UK) »
Using the new GRO births index, which shows the maiden name, there is this:

David Fisher  DecQ  1861   Kensington  1a   63      (mother Clark)

I think the 1871 census has been badly transcribed with the "h" from the line below appearing to join the line above and give a "y".
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: Birth or Baptism help please
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 25 March 18 14:57 BST (UK) »
Hello,

Presumably this is his birth.

David Fisher Mmn Clark
1861  December quarter Kensington vol 01A pg 63


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Re: Birth or Baptism help please
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 25 March 18 15:10 BST (UK) »
Thank you both so much.

Now i just have to find his death. his last appearance on a census was in 1891, and he was living in Camberwell. He is listed with his wife Jane, 2 sons and a daughter but I did notice that the daughter appears to be living with David's older sister in the 1901 and 1911 census. So i would assume that he has passed and all the children went to live with different family members. But i will know more once i trace the children further.

Thank you both again so much for the information.
Fisher - Australia, England
Redhead - Australia, England
Banks - Australia, England
Offord - Australia, England
O'Dwyer - Ireland
Thompson - Australia
Mitchell - Australia, Ireland
Dinte - Australia, England, Poland


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Re: Birth or Baptism help please
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 25 March 18 15:57 BST (UK) »
Now i just have to find his death. his last appearance on a census was in 1891,

This looks like David in 1901 - but with a different wife and some additional children  :-\
Son Arthur, born in Deal, is with him.

1, Hamilton Place, Penge
RG 13 / 652 / 127 / 46

David Fisher, head, m, 37, shoemaker, London Kensington
Alice R Fisher, wife, m, 35, Berkshire, Reading
Fredk Geo Fisher, son, Dyers carmen, Surrey, Croydon
Arthur E Fisher, son, 15, errand boy, Kent Deal
Richd Alb. Fisher, son, 14, Surrey Croydon
Ellen Alice Fisher, daur, 11, do do
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Re: Birth or Baptism help please
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 25 March 18 16:00 BST (UK) »
David and Jane’s son David James Fisher (7 b Battersea per 1891 census; birth reg Dec qtr 1883 Wandsworth) died in Epsom Dec qtr 1902 aged 19.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Birth or Baptism help please
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 25 March 18 16:03 BST (UK) »
Richard Albert Rosier, mmn Castle, birth reg Mar qtr 1887 Croydon
Ellen Alice Rebecca Roszier, mmn Parch, birth reg Sep qtr 1889 Croydon
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Birth or Baptism help please
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 25 March 18 16:05 BST (UK) »
1, Hamilton Place, Penge
RG 13 / 652 / 127 / 46

David Fisher, head, m, 37, shoemaker, London Kensington
Alice R Fisher, wife, m, 35, Berkshire, Reading
Fredk Geo Fisher, son, Dyers carmen, Surrey, Croydon
Arthur E Fisher, son, 15, errand boy, Kent Deal
Richd Alb. Fisher, son, 14, Surrey Croydon
Ellen Alice Fisher, daur, 11, do do


Now then..... here's an interesting household in 1891

RG 12 /596/68/12

Naseby Road, Croydon

Richard Rosier, head, 39, porter, Surrey Mitcham
Alice Rosier, wife, 24, Berks. Reading
Richard Rosier, son, 4, Surrey Croydon
Ellen Rosier, daur, 2, Surrey Croydon
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Re: Birth or Baptism help please
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 25 March 18 16:07 BST (UK) »
Thank you once again :)

From doing a search on GRo with the mmn Bass between 1882 and 1900 I found several more births to David and Jane, although several passed away. I will have to investigate the new names and dates and see if they match up to my David.
Fisher - Australia, England
Redhead - Australia, England
Banks - Australia, England
Offord - Australia, England
O'Dwyer - Ireland
Thompson - Australia
Mitchell - Australia, Ireland
Dinte - Australia, England, Poland