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Looking for Arrival for John Richard BICKNELL
« on: Monday 26 March 18 01:49 BST (UK) »
John Richard Bicknell married Caroline Pullen in 1855 in England and had a child Alice Bicknell in 1856 born near Brighton England.  All three came to Australia and their second child George Bicknell was born in 1858 in Brighton, Melbourne, Victoria (what a coincidence).

I cannot find how, what ship or exactly how and when they arrived in Australia.

I have all the other information I need on the family, further children births, marriages and deaths, everything, BUT my "Brick Wall" is just exactly when and how did they arrived in Australia.

Thanks, Red
Clarence, England then Australia from 1912.
Copeland, England.
Lascelles / Lovett / Stevens, England.
Langford, England (Reading and Southampton).
Kipp / Rigbye / Randall, Germany then Victoria, Australia from 1849.
Boothman / Clifford / Marsden / Johnston in Australia

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Re: Looking for Arrival for John Richard BICKNELL
« Reply #1 on: Monday 26 March 18 03:02 BST (UK) »
There is a John and Mrs Bicknell on the unclaimed letters list for Dec 1856. Could they have arrived that year or were they due to arrive Dec/Jan 1857?

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article154869835

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Re: Looking for Arrival for John Richard BICKNELL
« Reply #2 on: Monday 26 March 18 03:08 BST (UK) »
Caroline’s obituary says she arrived in 1856, 4th column:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article152149731

What month was Alice born in UK? Is this her birth?

Jun 1856 Bicknell Alice Petworth 2b 266

If so, it narrows their arrival to between June and December 1856.

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Re: Looking for Arrival for John Richard BICKNELL
« Reply #3 on: Monday 26 March 18 03:24 BST (UK) »
The obit says there were 4 daughters. I can only see Ada and Ann on VICBDM and with Alice that’s 3, who is the missing one. Wondering if she was born before George in another State of Oz.

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Re: Looking for Arrival for John Richard BICKNELL
« Reply #4 on: Monday 26 March 18 03:26 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jamjar, I also found that unclaimed letters and obit on Trove. Yes, I'm sure that is Alice, June quarter 1856 (freeBMD)

I've been searching arrivals from 1856 to 1858 the year George was born and just can't find their arrival anywhere.
Clarence, England then Australia from 1912.
Copeland, England.
Lascelles / Lovett / Stevens, England.
Langford, England (Reading and Southampton).
Kipp / Rigbye / Randall, Germany then Victoria, Australia from 1849.
Boothman / Clifford / Marsden / Johnston in Australia

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Re: Looking for Arrival for John Richard BICKNELL
« Reply #5 on: Monday 26 March 18 03:40 BST (UK) »
Yes, I'm sure that is Alice, June quarter 1856 (freeBMD)

From the GRO...

BICKNELL, ALICE
Mother's maiden surname: PULLEN
GRO Reference: 1856  J Quarter in PETWORTH  Volume 02B  Page 266

Debra  :)


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Re: Looking for Arrival for John Richard BICKNELL
« Reply #6 on: Monday 26 March 18 03:42 BST (UK) »
I see that the missing birth is for Caroline Louisa. Her death indicates she was born in VIC, 1871.

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Re: Looking for Arrival for John Richard BICKNELL
« Reply #7 on: Monday 26 March 18 04:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks again Jamjar, I am looking for their arrival to Australia. As I said I have all the other information about the Bicknell family.

I've looked in Assisted and Unassisted arrivals from 1856 to 1858 without success. I also tried searching on Ancestry (library version) for UK departures but that is from 1890 ..... too late for John & Caroline and baby Alice. I just can't find an arrival for them.

Is that common? Are there lots of passenger lists that have not been recorded?

Thanks again, Red
Clarence, England then Australia from 1912.
Copeland, England.
Lascelles / Lovett / Stevens, England.
Langford, England (Reading and Southampton).
Kipp / Rigbye / Randall, Germany then Victoria, Australia from 1849.
Boothman / Clifford / Marsden / Johnston in Australia

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Re: Looking for Arrival for John Richard BICKNELL
« Reply #8 on: Monday 26 March 18 04:19 BST (UK) »
Yes, I understood what you were looking for. I was trying to ascertain where and when Caroline Jnr was born in order to discount any chance they arrived in another Australian State, in 1856.

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