Ernest Henry Montague Ratcliffe

[WendysWillmottResearch]

Ernest lived on Dandenong Road, Melbourne until he died in 1938.  His wife, Jane Nottage, died in 1921 and they didn't have any children. 

My family remember visiting an Aunt Kate at the Dandenong Road house as late as 1964.  We cannot establish who this Kate is.  She was not married to Ernest (as far as records show), and was obviously about 30 odd years younger than Ernest.

I have found address of 38 Dandenong Road from Voters lists, but the numbering is likely to have changed over the years. 

Does anyone have any ideas of how to trace who this Kate is that lived at the Dandenong Road house in around 1964.

Thanks

Wendy

[MaureeninNY]

She seems to be Kate nee WARLAND:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lt7/

Dies as Kate RATCLIFF in 1965.

Maureen

[matthewj64]

Death of Kate's mother
1924 'Family Notices', The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957), 14 October, p. 1. , viewed 26 Mar 2018, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2049885

Death of Ernest
1938 'Family Notices', The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954), 23 February, p. 1. , viewed 26 Mar 2018, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article206756637

[Aussie1947]

Hi.

FamilySearch GS Film, 1238888

Kate WARLAND
Born: 10th March 1870
Bapt: 5th June 1870
Melbourne
F: Phillip WARLAND
M: Miriam WARLAND.

Gerry

[Jamjar]

Kate’s death

25755 1965 RATCLIFF Kate WARLAND parents Philip Christopher and Miriam (Stockwell) Place of birth: St Kilda Place of death: Caulfield Aged 95

Marriage

1922 12320 WARLAND Kate to RATCLIFF Ern Henry Montague

Philip Christopher death

2072 1918 WARLAND Philip Chris parents Warland Hy and Anne (Johnson) Malv Aged 77

Miriam’s death

1924 13571 WARLAND Miriam father STOCKWELL Caulfield Aged 84

Golden wedding notice for the Warlands

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article1604470

UK marriage

Mar 1867 Lambeth 1d 361
WARLAND Philip Christopher to STOCKWELL Miriam

UK birth

RATCLIFF, ERNEST  MONTAGUE mmn MONTAGUE
GRO Reference: 1862  S Quarter in DUNMOW UNION  Volume 04A  Page 344

Given that records have Ernest born in 1862 and Kate in 1870, there was only an 8 year age difference and not 30ish, as you thought.

Jamjar

[WendysWillmottResearch]

Thank you everyone!  That is awesome.  I would love to know how you find this info.  I had searched bdm and couldn't find anything.

[Jamjar]

Death notices on page 13. No children mentioned, but Aunt to Bennett's and Quinton's:

RATCLIFF Kate Death notice 21-11-1965 Death The Age (Melbourne) 25-11-1965   
RATCLIFF Kate Death notice 21-11-1965 Death late of Caulfield The Age (Melbourne) 24-11-1965   

https://news.google.com.au/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19651124&printsec=frontpage&hl=en

Of note, all records both Australia and UK show Ratcliff without an ending 'e'.

Jamjar

[cando]

Ernest lived on Dandenong Road, Melbourne until he died in 1938.  His wife, Jane Nottage, died in 1921 and they didn't have any children. 

My family remember visiting an Aunt Kate at the Dandenong Road house as late as 1964.  We cannot establish who this Kate is.  She was not married to Ernest (as far as records show), and was obviously about 30 odd years younger than Ernest.

I have found address of 38 Dandenong Road from Voters lists, but the numbering is likely to have changed over the years. 

Does anyone have any ideas of how to trace who this Kate is that lived at the Dandenong Road house in around 1964.

Thanks

Wendy

The address was 38 Dandenong Road, Caulfield.

1915 Sands and McDougall
CAULFIELD
Dandenong Road - South Side

Orrong Road
6 households
REID John S

Norwood Street

RATCLIFF Ernest H M

Walora Road

So you should be looking at Dandnenong Road, North Caulfield and the south west corner of Norwood Street and Walora Road.  Appears to be three lots two of which are occupied by a block of flats.

You can check the address google maps.
https://maps.google.com.au/

There are probate files at PROV for Ernest and Kate.  Ernest's probate file was resealed in NSW and the estate value was £644 on which probate duty was assessed in that State.
https://prov.vic.gov.au/explore-collection/explore-topic/wills-and-probates

Interred at Brighton General Cemetery
http://www.brightoncemetery.com/graves/index.php

RATCLIFF Ernest Henry Montague  22 Feb 1938  75 years  C of E Y900
RATCLIFF Kate  23 Nov 1954  95 years  C of E Y900
RATCLIFF Jane  22 Sep 1921  C of E Y900
RATFLIFF Florence Jane  9 Jul 1922  C of E Y901

The following sites are useful for Victorian research.  I like to give the url's to help others do their own research.
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/indexsearch.doj
https://prov.vic.gov.au/explore-collection/explore-topic/wills-and-probates
and
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/

I can't find a MMBW map showing Ernest's house but this is an earlier map of the area

Cando

[cando]

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article11170645
£78,042 ESTATE
The will of Mr. Ernest Henry Montague Ratcliff, of Wenden Lofts, Dandenong road, Caulfield, investor, who died on February 21, has been lodged for probate. By his will, which is dated July 21, 1937, testator left real estate valued at £11,042, and personal property valued at £67,000, to his widow and relatives, subject to gifts of £100 each to the Royal Melbourne Hospital, Prince Henry's Hospital. Children's Hospital, Alfred Hospital, Women's Hospital, Austin Hospital, the Berry Street Foundling Home, and the Winiam Forster Try Society, South Yarra.

Cando