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Queensland marriage - John CALFORD, 1893
« on: Monday 26 March 18 17:42 BST (UK) »
Just wondering any more detail of this might be viewable online somewhere. I’m particularly interested in whether John claims to be single or a widower.

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Re: Queensland marriage - John CALFORD, 1893
« Reply #1 on: Monday 26 March 18 22:29 BST (UK) »
Who is he marrying - Eliza?
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Re: Queensland marriage - John CALFORD, 1893
« Reply #2 on: Monday 26 March 18 22:29 BST (UK) »
MMmm...
Had you thought he married previously in England?

Marriages Sep 1881   

CALFORD  John
to
SKUSE  Lilly
or     
THORNE Harriett Hannah 
Barton R.  6a /192 

Sue 
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Re: Queensland marriage - John CALFORD, 1893
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 27 March 18 00:27 BST (UK) »
John Calford = Eliza Dovey in 1893 Qld.

It looks like John died in 1938 Brisbane, father Samuel, no mother's name given.

(Check Trove as there are a couple of interesting articles in 1898 about his insolvency - mentions he has only been a baker for 3 years and 5 months.)

I can only see one John Calford in the 1891 UK census and he is a lodger living in Brighton - says he is single, a "porter draper" and born in Brighton - age NK, so that doesn't help much. :-\

The John Calford marrying either Lilly or Harriet in 1881 in Barton Regis (Gloucestershire) as mentioned by Sue should appear in the 1891 census married to one of the women. I can see a William Rogers married to a Harriett born Bitton (Gloucestershire) - unsure if this is the correct couple though as they are a bit older. If it is correct it would indicate that John married Lilly.

I have located a John Calford in the 1881 English census. His father is Samuel and his mother is Sarah. He is aged 16, born in the parish of Bitton and (if I remember correctly) is a shoemaker.

I had a quick look on the Qld immigration indexes but couldn't see John. Do you know when he arrived in Australia? Was he alone?

None of this answers your question, but does point to the 1881 marriage perhaps being the same John. If he did a runner to Australia leaving a wife behind, he is unlikely to have said he was married (but perhaps widowed even if untrue?) when he married Eliza in Qld. Purchasing certificates might be the way to go, however fibs could still have been told.

I found John on the Australian voter lists. Eliza is with him initially, then seems to disappear early 1900s (I did not look thoroughly to trace her movements). I thought she may have died but I found a death for an Eliza Calford in 1938.  :-\







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Re: Queensland marriage - John CALFORD, 1893
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 27 March 18 01:11 BST (UK) »
Hi,

John CALFORD of Wellington Street Brisbane was on the the Quarterly Electoral Roll list for Brisbane North published on 17th January 1890 (Brisbane Courier), he qualified by residence.

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Re: Queensland marriage - John CALFORD, 1893
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 27 March 18 01:23 BST (UK) »
Just a few snippets in case you don't have them

1934 Their house gutted by fire http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article186508207 and http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article35647303

1937 Funeral notice for John CALFORD http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article36902808
1937 Lillian Alberta Edmunds and Eileen Rotha CALFORD making claims for property owned by John CALFORD http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article37930808

1938 Funeral notice for Eliza CALFORD http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article97869022

1910 Petty Debts Court - Eliza CALFORD rates due http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article188158301

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adding : obituary for husband of Violet CALFORD (Godfrey S FELSCHOW) http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article48954318
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Re: Queensland marriage - John CALFORD, 1893
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 27 March 18 01:33 BST (UK) »
Good finds Ros. :)

1937 Lillian Alberta Edmunds and Eileen Rotha CALFORD making claims for property owned by John CALFORD http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article37930808

I wonder if this might be "Lilly" who married John Calford in England, and Eileen, possible daughter?  :-\


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Re: Queensland marriage - John CALFORD, 1893
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 27 March 18 01:38 BST (UK) »
Good thinking Ruskie but I think this is marriage notice and Lillian is second daughter of Mr and Mrs J CALFORD of Brisbane

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article21177623

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Re: Queensland marriage - John CALFORD, 1893
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 27 March 18 02:18 BST (UK) »
Ruskie, Family Search has him marrying Harriett:

Name: John Calford
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 15 Aug 1881
Event Place: Bristol, St Jude, Gloucestershire, England
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: Samuel Calford
Spouse's Name: Harriett Hannah Thorne
Spouse's Residence Place: Bristol, St Jude, Gloucestershire
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Father's Name: Peter Thorne

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