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Kirkharle 'Arthur' and Bellingham 'Heron'
« on: Tuesday 27 March 18 01:08 BST (UK) »
x3 siblings appear to have married x3 siblings. I am trying to trace mothers for both sets of siblings

Andrew Heron                                                 
baptism 4 Mar 1720 St Cuthbert, Bellingham       
father Thomas Heron of 'Clues' Bellingham                                                                                     
married in Kirkharle 14 May 1754 to
Mary Arthur
baptised 19 Aug 1723 Kirkharle
father William Arthur


Elizabeth Heron                                                           
baptised 9 Sep 1733 St Cuthbert Bellingham                         
father Thomas Heron of 'The Hole' Bellingham                                                                                       
married in Kirkharle 22 May 1768
Christopher Arthur
baptised 11 Mar 1732 Kirkharle
father William Arthur


William Heron
baptised 24 Jun 1731 Hebron or Bothal
married in Kirkharle 23 May 1762
Eleanor Arthur
baptised 26 Dec 1734 Kirkharle
father William Arthur


The Heron siblings are definitely siblings and born to Thomas Heron who lived at Clews, Bellingham and then 'The Hole' Bellingham and finally Hott Hill, Bellingham. He died in 1783 and his Will doesn't lend any clue as to who his wife was.

The Arthur siblings is more of a guess, based on they were all called Arthur, all baptised and all married in the same church in Kirkharle and all have a 'William Arthur' listed as their father.

I'm trying to find
For Thomas Heron - date of birth / baptism / name of wife / name of parents / any siblings

For William Arthur - dates of birth / death, confirmation that the 3 names children are all his and most importantly, who his wife was.

I have found a likely marriage I think for William Arthur on FreeReg to a Margaret Brown 21 May 1717 in Kirkharle, but can't link it to any of the children. This leads to the question could there be any connection with Lancelot 'Capability' Brown, if it is Margaret Brown.

The Kirkharle Bishops transcripts don't appear to be available online for dates that early

There were no wills relevant to any of these people I could find

What would then next step be / place to look or can anyone offer any help?

thanks
Christian
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Re: Kirkharle 'Arthur' and Bellingham 'Heron'
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 27 March 18 08:34 BST (UK) »
in the will of your Thomas Heron does it state late of Simonburn,
interesting then to see in Simonburn free reg there is a death recorded for Elizabeth Heron
15th April 1761,abode Woodleyshield
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Re: Kirkharle 'Arthur' and Bellingham 'Heron'
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 27 March 18 09:43 BST (UK) »
in the will of your Thomas Heron does it state late of Simonburn,
interesting then to see in Simonburn free reg there is a death recorded for Elizabeth Heron
15th April 1761,abode Woodleyshield
Notes,poor

Thank you Radcliff
Apologies about the notes, I set it out on an iPad trying to make the groups of siblings and marriages look clear but realised it was messed up on other devices / computer, so have simplified

Thomas Herons Will states he was late of Hott Hill, Bellingham but 'of' The Hole in the parish of Simonburn
I have him in 1735 at The Hole and again in 1782 at Hott Hill, but nothing in between and can't find anything to link him to Woodley Shield, but it seems Elizabeth is a distinct possibility.
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Re: Kirkharle 'Arthur' and Bellingham 'Heron'
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 August 19 16:23 BST (UK) »
Hi, William Heron’s grave stone (and it states his wife as Eleanor) in Whitley Chapel gives his burial as 11 Nov 1816 and his age as 82 suggesting he was born in 1734.
The wedding entry at Kirkharle says he lived in The Parish of Hexham at the time of the wedding.
How have you decided Hebron or Bothal in 1731 as his birthplace?


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Re: Kirkharle 'Arthur' and Bellingham 'Heron'
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 28 August 19 19:15 BST (UK) »
Hi, William Heron’s grave stone (and it states his wife as Eleanor) in Whitley Chapel gives his burial as 11 Nov 1816 and his age as 82 suggesting he was born in 1734.
The wedding entry at Kirkharle says he lived in The Parish of Hexham at the time of the wedding.
How have you decided Hebron or Bothal in 1731 as his birthplace?

Thank you. There is a baptism transcribed for both Hebron and Bothal for 24 Jun 1731 for a William Heron born to Thomas Heron.
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