Deborah Ardiff

[dathai]

Hi all
       while going over some old baptisms i was checking out the sponsors and two that had me flummoxed for years were my grandfather's Denis O'Neill born August 1885 in Townsend St,Dublin
to Mat O'Neill and Nora Green.
They were Bartholemew O/Shea and Deborah Ardiff

Nora Green my great grandmother had a sister Julia Green who married at age 53 in 1911, just recently i looked at the civil cert and was surprised to find she was widow  Julia Shea
turns out that the priest recorded her name as Julia Sullivan in 1876
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lti/

now for Deborah Ardiff nee Gallivan, the name Deborah Ardiff does not appear anywhere on the civil register in Ireland  but does appear twice on baptism records 1884/5 in Dublin
Deborah married Edward Ardiff in Killarney in 1878 he was a Stonecutter
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1878/11097/8061333.pdf
or number 18 here
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634332#page/89/mode/1up

Edward gave his parents as Edward Ardiff and Anne Reilly,Dublin but
suspect they may originally be from Kildare.

I can find no records for the Ardiff's after 1885 and was wondering could someone else, seems a bit of a mystery.

Any help much appreciated as always.

Dathai

[hallmark]

There is an Ardiff, stone cutter on Census

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kildare/Leixlip/Leixlip/1437660/

have you checked registers for Edward??

[hallmark]

Edward's sister?    http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ltj/

Husband                        Wife
Name   PETER WEST          MARY JANE ARDIFF
Address   6 LITTLE STRAND ST    6 LITTLE STRAND ST
Occupation   N/R    N/R
Father   FRANCIS WEST           EDWARD ARDIFF
Mother   MARGT ROCHFORD    ANNE O'REILLY

[dathai]

Hi Hallmark
                 yes i have checked the registers for Edward and saw one death in Dublin 1874 for a 47 yr old who could possibly be his father ?
The majority of Ardiff's coming out of Kildare were Stonecutters a few ended up in Kilmainham where i am sure they set up the well known printers.

[dathai]

I had seen the marriages of his two known sisters i am just wondering what happened to Edward and Deborah

[Cwellan CoDown]

Could they have emigrated?

There is a Patrick Ardiff living in New York in 1900, and he is stonecutter from Ireland.
His wife is Kate

So could this be a brother/cousins etc of your Edward Ardiff, and Edward joined him in the US?

[hallmark]

Hi Hallmark
                 yes i have checked the registers for Edward and saw one death in Dublin 1874 for a 47 yr old who could possibly be his father ?
The majority of Ardiff's coming out of Kildare were Stonecutters a few ended up in Kilmainham where i am sure they set up the well known printers.

In Loving Memory of | my dear sister | MARY ARDIFF | Old Kilmainham |
died 27th Oct. 1936 aged 9 years | and my dear parents | ANN | Interred
in Portsmouth | died 15th Sept. 1950, aged 46 years | RALPH | died 1st
Aug. 1972 aged 79 years
The small headstone stating in front of above, which appears to have been
the original standing on this grave: - In | Loving Memory | of | MARY
ARDIFF | died 27th Oct. 1936 | R.I.P.

http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/bluebell/dublin-bluebell-3/target148.html

[gaffy]

Have you eliminated this one (thinking of every possible angle)?

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kerry/Tralee_Urban/Bridge_Street/1431596/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kerry/Tralee_Urban__part_of_/Bridge_Street/291516/

Edited to add: Maybe not  ('Wife of a farmer')...
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1913/05323/4481668.pdf

Edited again to add: More than likely not, I think it can be regarded as eliminated:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1883/10930/5993773.pdf

[dathai]

Thank's Gaffy
                     i see your train of thought,i was recently looking for a twice widowed woman who's death is not registered i eventually found her burial in Glasnevin by her daughter in her first marriage name.

Dathai