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Re: LOUGH, John Joseph
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 28 March 18 07:24 BST (UK) »
UK Marriage of parents: Mar 1848 Islington 3 185 Joseph Lough to Eliza Neale

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Re: LOUGH, John Joseph
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 28 March 18 07:41 BST (UK) »
On the UK 1871 census:

Event Date: 1871
Event Place: Islington, London, Middlesex, England
Enumeration District: 32
Entry Number: 24
Affiliate Image Identifier: GBC/1871/0261/0078

Family

Joseph Lough 52 Kindal, Westmorland
Eliza Lough 47 Islington, Middlesex
Caroline Lough 22 St Pancras, Middlesex
Theodora Lough 20 St Pancras, Middlesex
John J Lough 17 Islington, Middlesex
Jane Lough Islington, Middlesex

Theodora and Jane on the 1911 as unmarried.
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Re: LOUGH, John Joseph
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 28 March 18 08:33 BST (UK) »
Well, that was incredible! Such a lot of information from all of you in such a short time.
However, I just want to get his name out there and try to unearth a descendent or two to pass on his antique family bible.
How can I best do this, do you think? All suggestions appreciated.
Again - you're amazing!

Di

What is written in the bible that could identify him as either of the John Joseph Loughs? Is there a mention of him as mayor? There's a chance that it belonged to the architect who drowned or someone else!  :)

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Re: LOUGH, John Joseph
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 28 March 18 08:35 BST (UK) »
On the UK 1901 census Vera is with the two ladies mentioned in the Trove notice.

What is the connection that makes her their 1/2 sister?

On the 1911 census she is down as Marion's sister-in-law.

Marion Thompson Head Female 29 N S W Australia
Ella V Thompson Sister Female 28 N S W Australia
Vera S Lough 1/2 Sister Female 19 N S W Australia

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Added:

Got it, the girls are the daughters from John Joseph's first wife's first marriage.

18824/1871 THOMSON Eveline Marian parents JAMES HILL and ELIZA VICTORIA WARIALDA
18343/1873 THOMSON Ella Vivienne parents JAMES HILL and ELIZA VICTORIA SCONE

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Re: LOUGH, John Joseph
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 28 March 18 08:44 BST (UK) »
Well, that was incredible! Such a lot of information from all of you in such a short time.
However, I just want to get his name out there and try to unearth a descendent or two to pass on his antique family bible.
How can I best do this, do you think? All suggestions appreciated.
Again - you're amazing!

Di

What is written in the bible that could identify him as either of the John Joseph Loughs? Is there a mention of him as mayor? There's a chance that it belonged to the architect who drowned or someone else!  :)

I'm beginning to think he was re-incarnated. There is John Joseph the architect mentioned in 1890 as being appointed as a trustee, 2nd last column:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article3517487

I believe there is only one John Joseph Lough and that he didn’t drown. The news article headline asks whether he drowned and the listing in the death notices could have been made by a clerk based on the news article. I could be mistaken of course.

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Re: LOUGH, John Joseph
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 28 March 18 10:03 BST (UK) »
Think this is the marriage to wife mentioned in notices:

1499/1884 LOUGH John J to SMITH Mary G SYDNEY

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Notice for this one here
1884 'Family Notices', The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954), 10 October, p. 1. , viewed 28 Mar 2018, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article13567898

So, only one man, but he married May Gertrude later the same year, 1884,  that Eliza Victoria died, then "drowned" in 1886 (but no official death record) and reappeared later  ???

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Re: LOUGH, John Joseph
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 28 March 18 11:43 BST (UK) »
Marrying the same year not unusual and especially if he had 3 young girls to raise, assuming he had the two Thomson girls and Vera.

He was only Mayor for a very short time: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ltt/

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Re: LOUGH, John Joseph
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 25 April 18 10:47 BST (UK) »
John Joseph Lough is in my tree.  Ancestry indicates 2nd cousin 3x removed.  I'm not currently in touch with anyone closer, but will have a look through some of contacts and emails for someone.  Cheers

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