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Where to look for marriage record in Donegal/Tyrone?
« on: Thursday 29 March 18 02:06 BST (UK) »
I don't have much to go on but I'm looking for the marriage of Robert Nelson to Mary in Donegal or Tyrone.

Their daughters, Margaret bc1819, and Martha bc 1823, emigrated to Australia in 1841, variously giving their birthplaces as Donegal (more often) or Tyrone. Martha said she was the youngest daughter in a newspaper record of her Golden Wedding Anniversary.

Any leads gratefully received  :)
Jan
England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Where to look for marriage record in Donegal/Tyrone?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 29 March 18 07:28 BST (UK) »
Research in Ireland can be difficult without a townland or parish.
The earliest record Tithe Applotments that might be helpful is 1831 Robert Nelson and 2 other Nelsons (male) at Ludden, Donegal.
Try Tithe Applotments,Donegal IGP, Family Search. Also do you have death records for the 2 daus. which might give more information.
Stephanie from Australia

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Re: Where to look for marriage record in Donegal/Tyrone?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 29 March 18 07:59 BST (UK) »
The National Archives does a good job of explaining what the Tithe Applotments are and who is included
http://www.genealogy.nationalarchives.ie/ you can search from there as well.

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Re: Where to look for marriage record in Donegal/Tyrone?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 29 March 18 07:59 BST (UK) »
Thanks Stephanie,

Unfortunately neither of the daughter's death certs have much info. One has parents unknown, the other has father unknown Nelson, farmer. The Bendigo Benevolent Asylum record lists one's parents as Robert and Mary Nelson.

I didn't think of the Tithe Applotments. I found a Robert Nelson in Luddan in Griffiths in 1857 so I could probably rule this one out.

I'll see what else I can find in the Tithe Applotments.
Jan
England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Where to look for marriage record in Donegal/Tyrone?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 29 March 18 08:03 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the link, Sinann.
England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Where to look for marriage record in Donegal/Tyrone?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 March 18 00:12 BST (UK) »

I don't have much to go on...


Clutching at straws here, but the tithe applotment books show a Robert Neilson in the townland of 'Drumdite'  (Drumdoit) in Urney parish. The only similar surname in Drumdoit in Griffith's Valuation, the 1901/1911 censuses and the PRONI Will Calendars index is Nelson. A Robert Neilson of Urney married a Mary Sproule of Raphoe on 24 January 1805 in Raphoe Church of Ireland parish. There is a mention in the following link of a Robert Nelson, father of Elizabeth of Urney who married in 1845, also William Nelson, father of Lydia of Drumdoit who married in 1854: https://cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/urney.html


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Re: Where to look for marriage record in Donegal/Tyrone?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 30 March 18 01:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks Gaffy, any straw is welcome.  :)  Great lead to follow up, especially if it's near Co Tyrone. The only problem I can see with this Robert Nelson is that the sisters were supposed to be orphaned by 1841.

Interesting that Robert, William and Elizabeth are all family names..
England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Where to look for marriage record in Donegal/Tyrone?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 31 March 18 16:03 BST (UK) »
1823-1837 Tithes Applotment Books based upon the index work of the Irish Genealogy Hub’s listing for each parish in Northern Ireland, The relevant original books are in the
Public Record Office of Northern Ireland (PRONI) Belfast
Nelson, Thos.-Tl:Ballidolagh Yr: 1829-Magheracross –Tyrone
vanished by Griffiths valuation    Ballidolagh has changed spelling check
 
church records from
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/sites/default/files/publications/Guide_to_church_records.pdf
MAGHERACROSS, COS FERMANAGH AND TYRONE
C.I. Garvary (Clogher diocese)
[Partly in Magheracross parish – see under ENNISKILLEN]
C.I. Magheracross (Clogher diocese)
Baptisms, 1800-40 and 1846-91; marriages, 1800- 1919; burials, 1800-1979; vestry minutes, 1847-1966; preachers’ books, 1843-65 and 1930-61; register of vestrymen, 1870-1919. Baptisms, 1891-.
M. Ballinamallard [Wesleyan Methodists]
Baptisms, 1829-1919; marriages, 1882-1937; circuit schedule books, 1881-91 and 1895-1908; membership rolls,1881-92 and 1898-1900; circuit stewards’ book, 1879-94.
M. Knockmanoul [Wesleyan Methodists]
Baptisms, 1879-1919 [there may be earlier baptisms in MIC1E/15]; circuit schedule books, 1866-1908; membership rolls, 1881-1900; circuit stewards’ book,
microfilm references muddled see download
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Re: Where to look for marriage record in Donegal/Tyrone?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 01 April 18 01:22 BST (UK) »
Thanks for this info - lots to follow up here :)
England:
Durham: COULSON, FENWICK, HUNTER, LOWES, NAYLOR, ROBSON
Norfolk: DEWING, OUGHTON, TAYLOR,
Lancashire: TWEDDLE
Ireland: KEATING, Limerick; NELSON, Donegal
Scotland: BENNIE, Glasgow; COOK, Renfrewshire; HENDERSON, Alloa/Dundee; HUNTER, Glasgow; KIRKWOOD, Alloa; LAMONT, Dalkeith; YOUNG, Glasgow
Switzerland: VOSTI, DELUBINI
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk